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		By: JayC		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Sep 2024 07:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thestorydepartment.com/events-vs-actions/#comment-381104&quot;&gt;Karel FG Segers&lt;/a&gt;.

If Eve is Paul&#039;s lover, and Jack kills Paul, then this Action is a powerful event from the POV of Eve.

&quot; But an Event (to Eve) can never by an Action BY Eve. &quot;

This is where it is confusing, Jack killing paul make Jack a murderer which until that action he wasn&#039;t so that action is also an event for Jack since it will change the direction of the story for Jack that will now for example maybe will have to kill eve so that she do not talk, and run from the police

So how an Event (TO) Jack cannot be an action (BY) Jack ?

Let&#039;s say for reason that Eve start looking through Paul stuff and found a second phone in which she found message from another woman ? This an event right ? And the reason it happen is 1 because well Paul cheated, 2 because eve found out BY looking into his stuff, so the found out is the event and looking into his stuff is the action. Sorry i&#039;m confused]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thestorydepartment.com/events-vs-actions/#comment-381104">Karel FG Segers</a>.</p>
<p>If Eve is Paul&#8217;s lover, and Jack kills Paul, then this Action is a powerful event from the POV of Eve.</p>
<p>&#8221; But an Event (to Eve) can never by an Action BY Eve. &#8221;</p>
<p>This is where it is confusing, Jack killing paul make Jack a murderer which until that action he wasn&#8217;t so that action is also an event for Jack since it will change the direction of the story for Jack that will now for example maybe will have to kill eve so that she do not talk, and run from the police</p>
<p>So how an Event (TO) Jack cannot be an action (BY) Jack ?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say for reason that Eve start looking through Paul stuff and found a second phone in which she found message from another woman ? This an event right ? And the reason it happen is 1 because well Paul cheated, 2 because eve found out BY looking into his stuff, so the found out is the event and looking into his stuff is the action. Sorry i&#8217;m confused</p>
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		By: JayC		</title>
		<link>https://www.thestorydepartment.com/events-vs-actions/#comment-381484</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Sep 2024 03:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thestorydepartment.com/events-vs-actions/#comment-381104&quot;&gt;Karel FG Segers&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m so sorry to only answer right now but i never got the mail notification for your answer and today while i was &quot; STILL &quot; trying to make sense of all this i reread your article and see my comment then your answer to it, so sorry for the late response and also thank you to answer me in the first place.

I think that back then i didn&#039;t ask my question properly so hopefully i do a better job (being french doesn&#039;t help lol)

Here is a kid story, can you tell/help me understand what are those ? Actions or events

In a small town in Minnesota, there lived an eight-year-old boy named Lucas. Lucas woke up one cold winter morning. When he looked out the window, he was surprised. The entire back yard was coated in white powdery snow. He thought for a minute, trying to decide if he would rather eat breakfast first or play in the snow first. He chose snow, and quickly dressed in his warmest clothing.
Then he called downstairs,
&quot;Mom, I&#039;m going outside!&quot;
&quot;Don&#039;t forget your hat!&quot; replied his mom.
Lucas ran outside to enjoy the snowy morning. He built a snowman and made six snow angels before his neighbor Kendra came outside. Kendra and Lucas worked together to build the biggest snow fort in the neighborhood.

- Waking up
- Looked outside a window
- He was surprised
- The back yard was coated in snow
- He thought
- He decide snow
- He dressed up
- Run downstairs
- Talk to his mum
- His mum talked back
- He ran outside
- Built a snowman
- Made six angels
- Her neighbor Kendra came outside
- They build a fort

Are those events / happenings / actions ?

Cause every where around the internet even in &quot; STORIES &quot; from Robert Mckee everyone is saying that Event = anything that &quot; happen &#039; in story

I guess my question is, how do you know that something has happen ?

Also i kinda get what you explain to me in the previous comment as ACTION &#038; REACTION or CAUSE &#038; EFFECT ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thestorydepartment.com/events-vs-actions/#comment-381104">Karel FG Segers</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so sorry to only answer right now but i never got the mail notification for your answer and today while i was &#8221; STILL &#8221; trying to make sense of all this i reread your article and see my comment then your answer to it, so sorry for the late response and also thank you to answer me in the first place.</p>
<p>I think that back then i didn&#8217;t ask my question properly so hopefully i do a better job (being french doesn&#8217;t help lol)</p>
<p>Here is a kid story, can you tell/help me understand what are those ? Actions or events</p>
<p>In a small town in Minnesota, there lived an eight-year-old boy named Lucas. Lucas woke up one cold winter morning. When he looked out the window, he was surprised. The entire back yard was coated in white powdery snow. He thought for a minute, trying to decide if he would rather eat breakfast first or play in the snow first. He chose snow, and quickly dressed in his warmest clothing.<br />
Then he called downstairs,<br />
&#8220;Mom, I&#8217;m going outside!&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Don&#8217;t forget your hat!&#8221; replied his mom.<br />
Lucas ran outside to enjoy the snowy morning. He built a snowman and made six snow angels before his neighbor Kendra came outside. Kendra and Lucas worked together to build the biggest snow fort in the neighborhood.</p>
<p>&#8211; Waking up<br />
&#8211; Looked outside a window<br />
&#8211; He was surprised<br />
&#8211; The back yard was coated in snow<br />
&#8211; He thought<br />
&#8211; He decide snow<br />
&#8211; He dressed up<br />
&#8211; Run downstairs<br />
&#8211; Talk to his mum<br />
&#8211; His mum talked back<br />
&#8211; He ran outside<br />
&#8211; Built a snowman<br />
&#8211; Made six angels<br />
&#8211; Her neighbor Kendra came outside<br />
&#8211; They build a fort</p>
<p>Are those events / happenings / actions ?</p>
<p>Cause every where around the internet even in &#8221; STORIES &#8221; from Robert Mckee everyone is saying that Event = anything that &#8221; happen &#8216; in story</p>
<p>I guess my question is, how do you know that something has happen ?</p>
<p>Also i kinda get what you explain to me in the previous comment as ACTION &amp; REACTION or CAUSE &amp; EFFECT ?</p>
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		By: Karel FG Segers		</title>
		<link>https://www.thestorydepartment.com/events-vs-actions/#comment-381104</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karel FG Segers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2024 03:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thestorydepartment.com/events-vs-actions/#comment-381062&quot;&gt;JayC&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s not confusing if you take a clear POV, say the MC&#039;s.
From the MC&#039;s perspective, any Action by any other character may be a meaningful Event to which they need to respond.
If Eve is Paul&#039;s lover, and Jack kills Paul, then this Action is a powerful event from the POV of Eve.

But an Event (to Eve) can never by an Action BY Eve.
The whole point is to distinguish what a character does, and what is done to the character, so we can trace the chain of causation and detecting if/where any character becomes passive or non-responsive.
Does this all make sense?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thestorydepartment.com/events-vs-actions/#comment-381062">JayC</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not confusing if you take a clear POV, say the MC&#8217;s.<br />
From the MC&#8217;s perspective, any Action by any other character may be a meaningful Event to which they need to respond.<br />
If Eve is Paul&#8217;s lover, and Jack kills Paul, then this Action is a powerful event from the POV of Eve.</p>
<p>But an Event (to Eve) can never by an Action BY Eve.<br />
The whole point is to distinguish what a character does, and what is done to the character, so we can trace the chain of causation and detecting if/where any character becomes passive or non-responsive.<br />
Does this all make sense?</p>
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		By: JayC		</title>
		<link>https://www.thestorydepartment.com/events-vs-actions/#comment-381062</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JayC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2024 07:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Can an event also be an action perfomed by the character ?

- Jack killed Paul

This didn&#039;t occured, the character make it happen so can we say it is an event (something that happen) or is it an action (something performed by the character) ? I&#039;m so confused .. Please help : (]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can an event also be an action perfomed by the character ?</p>
<p>&#8211; Jack killed Paul</p>
<p>This didn&#8217;t occured, the character make it happen so can we say it is an event (something that happen) or is it an action (something performed by the character) ? I&#8217;m so confused .. Please help : (</p>
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