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		By: Pam Trueman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pam Trueman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 12:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thestorydepartment.com/merciless-logicians-the-sliding-scale-of-plausibility/#comment-608&quot;&gt;Clive Hopkins&lt;/a&gt;.

Just a short sentence spoken by one of them would have sorted this out. EG &quot;He&#039;s died of a drugs overdose and we suspect that anyone with all this money might have some dodgy friends...&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thestorydepartment.com/merciless-logicians-the-sliding-scale-of-plausibility/#comment-608">Clive Hopkins</a>.</p>
<p>Just a short sentence spoken by one of them would have sorted this out. EG &#8220;He&#8217;s died of a drugs overdose and we suspect that anyone with all this money might have some dodgy friends&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		By: Karel Segers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karel Segers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 23:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thestorydepartment.com/merciless-logicians-the-sliding-scale-of-plausibility/#comment-611&quot;&gt;Kurt Munro&lt;/a&gt;.

Flightplan didn&#039;t work for me, either.  But I thought the issue was rather the audience&#039;s doubt about the mother&#039;s mental sanity after the accident.

Suspension of disbelief goes out of the window &lt;a href=&quot;https://thestorydepartment.com/four-flaws-that-kill-your-hero/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;once we no longer 100% empathise with the Hero.&lt;/a&gt;

Hahahaha!! Love the IMDb comment!

Thank you Kurt.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thestorydepartment.com/merciless-logicians-the-sliding-scale-of-plausibility/#comment-611">Kurt Munro</a>.</p>
<p>Flightplan didn&#8217;t work for me, either.  But I thought the issue was rather the audience&#8217;s doubt about the mother&#8217;s mental sanity after the accident.</p>
<p>Suspension of disbelief goes out of the window <a href="https://thestorydepartment.com/four-flaws-that-kill-your-hero/" rel="nofollow">once we no longer 100% empathise with the Hero.</a></p>
<p>Hahahaha!! Love the IMDb comment!</p>
<p>Thank you Kurt.</p>
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		By: Kurt Munro		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kurt Munro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 18:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think a movie has to be realistic with its context...

Flightplan. I remember the evil guy&#039;s plan hinged on an event that he was &quot;lucky&quot; even occurred—the daughter leaving her sleeping mother. It didn&#039;t work for me, and I&#039;ve only seen it once, but that&#039;s what I remember.

Much worse is The Game with Michael Douglas. The world it set up just didn&#039;t wash with what was happening.

There was a funny comment on IMDB too - &quot;It&#039;s a movie. It&#039;s meant to suspend belief.&quot; I think he meant &quot;disbelief&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a movie has to be realistic with its context&#8230;</p>
<p>Flightplan. I remember the evil guy&#8217;s plan hinged on an event that he was &#8220;lucky&#8221; even occurred—the daughter leaving her sleeping mother. It didn&#8217;t work for me, and I&#8217;ve only seen it once, but that&#8217;s what I remember.</p>
<p>Much worse is The Game with Michael Douglas. The world it set up just didn&#8217;t wash with what was happening.</p>
<p>There was a funny comment on IMDB too &#8211; &#8220;It&#8217;s a movie. It&#8217;s meant to suspend belief.&#8221; I think he meant &#8220;disbelief&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Matthew Schelle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew Schelle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 08:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whenever I think about this question, my mind always goes back to the cropduster attack in North By Northwest.

As that scene unfolds it is pure suspense and insanely silly (why not just hide in the corn and shoot him??) but the audience buys it because of everything they&#039;ve accepted up until that point and are not allowed a moment to think about its ludicrous nature during the attack. Afterwards, we are then focused on what he will do regarding Eve. 

But... if the film had opened with a crop duster scene however, I&#039;d be responding quite differently. It could be innapropriately comedic and I might not buy it.

So really you can have plot holes and inplausible scenes - as long as you are aware of what the audience will accept, reject and ignore - so you can sell it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever I think about this question, my mind always goes back to the cropduster attack in North By Northwest.</p>
<p>As that scene unfolds it is pure suspense and insanely silly (why not just hide in the corn and shoot him??) but the audience buys it because of everything they&#8217;ve accepted up until that point and are not allowed a moment to think about its ludicrous nature during the attack. Afterwards, we are then focused on what he will do regarding Eve. </p>
<p>But&#8230; if the film had opened with a crop duster scene however, I&#8217;d be responding quite differently. It could be innapropriately comedic and I might not buy it.</p>
<p>So really you can have plot holes and inplausible scenes &#8211; as long as you are aware of what the audience will accept, reject and ignore &#8211; so you can sell it.</p>
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		By: David Di Muro		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Di Muro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 04:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While I agree on a philosophical level, I fear many writers use this logic as an excuse to ignore constructive criticism of their script.

Typical writer&#039;s excuse:
&quot;no, you don&#039;t understand; he had an epiphany; it DOES make sense..you just don&#039;t get it...&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree on a philosophical level, I fear many writers use this logic as an excuse to ignore constructive criticism of their script.</p>
<p>Typical writer&#8217;s excuse:<br />
&#8220;no, you don&#8217;t understand; he had an epiphany; it DOES make sense..you just don&#8217;t get it&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		By: Clive Hopkins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clive Hopkins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 01:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Unproduced scripts (and especially spec ones) are subject to a level of criticism that finished films seldom are. This is because, with a finished film, we just show it to an audience and see if it works. With an unproduced script, people are still chewing over whether or not it might work as a film.

My favourite plot hole relates to the central premise of Danny Boyle&#039;s first feature SHALLOW GRAVE. After the death of the guy with the money, the three friends have to choose between reporting the death and keeping the money. However, it&#039;s a false choice, as it would have been quite possible for them to report the death AND say nothing about the money. The important thing, though, is that even if you do spot this flaw, it doesn&#039;t detract from your enjoyment of the story.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unproduced scripts (and especially spec ones) are subject to a level of criticism that finished films seldom are. This is because, with a finished film, we just show it to an audience and see if it works. With an unproduced script, people are still chewing over whether or not it might work as a film.</p>
<p>My favourite plot hole relates to the central premise of Danny Boyle&#8217;s first feature SHALLOW GRAVE. After the death of the guy with the money, the three friends have to choose between reporting the death and keeping the money. However, it&#8217;s a false choice, as it would have been quite possible for them to report the death AND say nothing about the money. The important thing, though, is that even if you do spot this flaw, it doesn&#8217;t detract from your enjoyment of the story.</p>
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