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		By: joe velikovsky		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow - Great article Mike!

I&#039;m not religious (quite the opposite, as it happens, more into Science) but actually I consider The Bible (both Old &#038; New testaments) to be among the greatest horror stories ever written. 

An example: The Book of Job. 

As per your (excellent) points about (say, Hitchcockian) suspense: the Audience knows that the characters of God and Satan have had this bet... and yet the character of Job is `kept in the dark&#039; about this. 

Then `the horror begins&#039; for Job - and the Audience is thinking about the story on at least 2 levels: 
1) from the supernatural guys&#039; POV (God, and The Other Shiny Red Dude with the Horns etc) and 
2) from Job&#039;s POV. 

(Also possibly - a third level, ie - if they are of a Lot of Faith [as opposed to Oh Ye of Little Faith, or Lotta Fagina from Austin Powers], and are possibly (even subliminally/subconsciously) comparing `Job&#039; - and how he `performs&#039; during the tasks he is unwittingly set, to: themselves.)

To get right into the meat of characterization for a classic villain trope, check out this awesome doco: 
The History Of The Devil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5mYFJ4irxM

Anyway, great post Mike...!
(I&#039;ve had some horror feature films I worked on as a writer, produced... all your points are bang-on IMHO)

JT Velikovsky
High ROI Film/Story/Screenplay Consultant
https://storyality.wordpress.com/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; Great article Mike!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not religious (quite the opposite, as it happens, more into Science) but actually I consider The Bible (both Old &amp; New testaments) to be among the greatest horror stories ever written. </p>
<p>An example: The Book of Job. </p>
<p>As per your (excellent) points about (say, Hitchcockian) suspense: the Audience knows that the characters of God and Satan have had this bet&#8230; and yet the character of Job is `kept in the dark&#8217; about this. </p>
<p>Then `the horror begins&#8217; for Job &#8211; and the Audience is thinking about the story on at least 2 levels:<br />
1) from the supernatural guys&#8217; POV (God, and The Other Shiny Red Dude with the Horns etc) and<br />
2) from Job&#8217;s POV. </p>
<p>(Also possibly &#8211; a third level, ie &#8211; if they are of a Lot of Faith [as opposed to Oh Ye of Little Faith, or Lotta Fagina from Austin Powers], and are possibly (even subliminally/subconsciously) comparing `Job&#8217; &#8211; and how he `performs&#8217; during the tasks he is unwittingly set, to: themselves.)</p>
<p>To get right into the meat of characterization for a classic villain trope, check out this awesome doco:<br />
The History Of The Devil<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5mYFJ4irxM" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5mYFJ4irxM</a></p>
<p>Anyway, great post Mike&#8230;!<br />
(I&#8217;ve had some horror feature films I worked on as a writer, produced&#8230; all your points are bang-on IMHO)</p>
<p>JT Velikovsky<br />
High ROI Film/Story/Screenplay Consultant<br />
<a href="https://storyality.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://storyality.wordpress.com/</a></p>
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		By: Matthew Young		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 18:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Mike - great article!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Mike &#8211; great article!</p>
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