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		<title>[Video]: Ruby Sparks &#8211; Zoe Kazan on writing the perfect love interest</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[First-time scriptwriter Zoe Kazan sits down with co-directors Valerie Faris and Jonathan Dayton (Little Miss Sunshine) and actor Paul Dano to discuss the inception of indie romantic comedy Ruby Sparks at the Film Society in the Lincoln Centre. If you liked this, check out more videos about screenwriting or filmmaking. And if you know of ... <a title="[Video]: Ruby Sparks &#8211; Zoe Kazan on writing the perfect love interest" class="read-more" href="https://www.thestorydepartment.com/video-ruby-sparks-zoe-kazan-on-writing-the-perfect-love-interest/" aria-label="Read more about [Video]: Ruby Sparks &#8211; Zoe Kazan on writing the perfect love interest">Read more</a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3> First-time scriptwriter Zoe Kazan sits down with co-directors Valerie Faris and Jonathan Dayton (<em>Little Miss Sunshine</em>) and actor Paul Dano to discuss the inception of indie romantic comedy <em>Ruby Sparks</em> at the Film Society in the Lincoln Centre.</h3>
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					<description><![CDATA[Should you write a happy ending? Commercial common sense will tell you: yes, you should. Robert McKee says: &#8220;Tell the truth.&#8221; (see the previous post) McKee means: your story needs to reflect your worldview. If you contradict whatever you believe in for the sake of commerce, you will fail. During his Arthouse seminar, he gives ... <a title="Arcs and Endings (2)" class="read-more" href="https://www.thestorydepartment.com/tell-the-truth/" aria-label="Read more about Arcs and Endings (2)">Read more</a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should you write a happy ending?</p>
<p>Commercial common sense will tell you: yes, you should.</p>
<p>Robert McKee says: <em>&#8220;Tell the truth.&#8221; </em>(see the previous post)</p>
<p>McKee means: your story needs to reflect your worldview. If you contradict whatever you believe in for the sake of commerce, you will fail. During his Arthouse seminar, he gives the example of Bergman&#8217;s THROUGH A GLASS DARKLY, where Bergman forced an ending upon the story in which he didn&#8217;t really believe. The story didn&#8217;t work, McKee says. Even the great Bergman couldn&#8217;t go against his instinct.</p>
<p>The discussion about happy endings is not exactly the same as the discussion about arcs. Protagonists without arcs have starred in films with tremendous success (see the reference to Mystery Man on Film in the previous post).</p>
<p>Although writers with a positive world may have more success in connecting with a large audience, I believe that talented and skilled screenwriters can create stories that work, irrespective of their worldview.</p>
<p>First-timers will have a harder time.</p>
<p>Here is the dilemma: to break in, you need to write something the market wants to see. Yet you&#8217;ll have a better chance if this first spec screenplay is written from the heart. You need to tell the truth.</p>
<p>My advice to beginning screenwriters: see how different genres allow to make different statements about the human condition without compromising the chances of success. Horror, crime and satire are darker genres than romance, adventure or kids movies.</p>
<p>Finally, to illustrate McKee&#8217;s point, below is a transcript of his introduction to THROUGH A GLASS DARKLY for British television.<br />
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<p>Robert McKee: I saw my first Bergman film in Detroit, Michigan when I was 15. It was The Virgin Spring, a tale of revenge for rape and murder. Next came a comedy, Smiles of a Summer Night. After that Brink of Life, a social drama set in a maternity ward, Monika: A Teenage Love Story, Hour of the Wolf, a psycho-horror film. Bergman was like a one-man film studio bringing a fresh eye to many genres and by word of mouth filling cinemas everywhere. But then in the sixties he became a creature of the critics. They treated his films as intellectual crossword puzzles and drove the audience back behind a barricade of critic-speak � symbology, metaphysics, alienation � until it was impossible to watch a Bergman film without the feeling that you were taking an exam. And that�s where he stands today, on a pedestal, intimidating, distant, watched only by a tiny circle of cineastes. I think that over the years we forgot what the early audiences instinctively knew � above all else, Ingmar Bergman was a master storyteller.</p>
<p>Bergman�s difficult. Not to understand, but emotionally tough. He shines light into the darkest corners of life. He asks us to empathise with complex characters who, although very human, are not particularly loveable. Then he spins his stories over an emotional rollercoaster, taking us on a quest for the truth, truth that explodes the little lies that make life comfortable. To watch a Bergman film you have to be willing to invest all your humanity, to open yourself up, to care about life so much you want to know the truth though heaven may fall. It is not intellect Bergman demands so much as courage.</p>
<p>Bergman�s also difficult because he explains nothing. He doesn�t force his ideas into the mouths of his characters. Like Hollywood he tells stories visually, writes naturalistic dialogue and layers his meaning in the subtext. Unlike Hollywood his films are not tales of wish fulfilment, telling seductive lies about how everything works out for the best.</p>
<p>1a: The Film</p>
<p>�for now we see through a glass, darkly:<br />
but then face to face; now I know in part;<br />
but then I shall know even as also I am known</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[MICHAEL HAUGE is a story consultant, author and lecturer who works with writers and filmmakers. He has coached or consulted on projects for Will Smith, Julia Roberts, Robert Downey, Jr. and Morgan Freeman, plus every Hollywood studio. I am speaking with Michael about his career, his teaching and his first visit to Australia in May ... <a title="Michael Hauge Interview &#8211; Part 1" class="read-more" href="https://www.thestorydepartment.com/michael-hauge-1/" aria-label="Read more about Michael Hauge Interview &#8211; Part 1">Read more</a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3><strong>MICHAEL HAUGE </strong>is a story consultant, author and lecturer who works with writers and filmmakers. He has coached or consulted on projects for Will Smith, Julia Roberts, Robert Downey, Jr. and Morgan Freeman, plus every Hollywood studio.</h3>
<h4>I am speaking with Michael about his career, his teaching and his first visit to Australia in May of this year. With apologies for the poor audio quality of the telephone recording.</h4>
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<p><strong><em>Karel: </em></strong><em>Terry Rossio, co writer of ALADDIN, PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN and SHREK, says you are &#8220;the only screenwriting instructor who might be truly wasting his time because he should be writing screenplays instead.&#8221; That&#8217;s my first question: Have you ever felt like you were wasting your time?</em></p>
<p><strong><em>Michael: </em></strong>It&#8217;s very generous of Terry to say that. We first met when I did a special event as part of the American Screenwriters Association conference where I interviewed Ted Elliott and him. It was just when <em>SHREK</em> was in theatres. <img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" class="alignright" src="https://thestorydepartment.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/greenie.jpg" alt="greenie.JPG" width="446" height="265" />I gave a one hour lecture about <em>SHREK </em>and then they came on stage and we did a Q&amp;A. They said later they appreciated that everything I had talked about was exactly what they intended when they wrote the script.At the time they were in the midst of writing <em>Shrek 2</em> and weren&#8217;t real happy with the direction things were going, and people not appreciating their approach to it, which the studio ended up using anyway.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m wasting my time as a consultant. My strength, and my passion, is for working with writers and filmmakers, empowering them to get their stories on the page and on the screen, either by working with them one-on-one, or through my lectures, books, DVDs, articles, etc.</p>
<p><strong><em>Karel:</em></strong> <em>Have you ever written a screenplay?</em></p>
<p><strong><em>Michael:</em></strong> Some time ago I made a stab at writing a screenplay, and it was OK, but it really wasn&#8217;t where my passion was. I just have so much fun doing what I&#8217;m doing.</p>
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<p><strong><em>Karel</em></strong>:<em> How would you position yourself among the known screenwriting teachers?</em></p>
<p><strong><em>Michael:</em></strong> Good question&#8230; How would I position myself? Well, first of all I&#8217;m somebody that has been around now a long time. There are a few of us who are sort of regarded as the front guard, or the old guard.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s me, there&#8217;s Bob McKee, there&#8217;s Syd Field, Linda Seger, Chris Vogler, John Truby, Kathie Fong Yoneda, a couple more that I&#8217;ve probably forgotten. So I think that gives us all a certain cachet. We all have books; we all have reputations and so on.</p>
<p>As far as lecturing goes, we all seem to have different things that we kind of enjoy doing. Linda goes to a lot of festivals and does a lot of work outside the US. I don&#8217;t do so much outside the US and I don&#8217;t do so much lecturing as her or Chris or Bob McKee. The trip to Australia, is the first time I will have come to Australia to give a seminar or to do a workshop, so that is a bit different.</p>
<p>I think of that whole group I mentioned, I&#8217;m the one that does the most coaching. Linda writes a lot of books. Chris, is working for Paramount, and he travels to Europe a lot to lecture and collaborate on projects. But I think I&#8217;m the guy who is primarily a script consultant</p>
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<p><strong><em>Karel</em></strong><em>: In your view, are there any contradictions between the various story theories?</em></p>
<p><strong><em>Michael:</em></strong> In my experience, all those people that I mentioned, Bob and Syd and Linda and Chris and John, we all have our own approach to story, character and structure. And I have yet to find anything significant about which we disagree. It is just a different way of getting at the founding principles of story developed by Aristotle, and probably even before that.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I wanted to do the DVD of <em>The Hero</em>&#8216;<em>s 2 Journeys </em>with Chris Vogler. He uses Joseph Campbell&#8217;s model, a mythical model for approaching story. I think it is wonderful, and I think his work is among the best out there. He and I don&#8217;t really disagree on the core principles of story, we just have different approaches, so we can sort of make fun of each other and argue about that.</p>
<p>I <em>will </em>say that there are a lot of <em>myths </em>about screenwriting floating around, and some are perpetuated by other lecturers. Myths like <em>&#8216;if you live outside LA you don&#8217;t have a chance&#8217;</em> or <em>&#8216;it&#8217;s not what you know, it is who you know&#8217;</em>. It is important to know people, but you can <em>get </em>to know people. There are ways to network and contact people and get them to read your script and you&#8217;ll get to know them.</p>
<p>There are a lot of things like that, that I disagree with, but not the principles that I hear espoused by the top screenwriting teachers, or by the successful writers that I work with.</p>
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<p><strong><em>Karel</em></strong>: <em>We know you from your books and DVDs but what keeps you busy most of your time?</em></p>
<p><strong><em>Michael</em></strong>: I primarily do three things: I consult with writers, directors, producers, filmmakers and storytellers of all kind; I&#8217;m invited to lecture to lots of different groups; and I write &#8212; books and articles and so on. And of course, I have DVDs and CDs of some of the lectures that I give.</p>
<p><strong><em>Karel</em></strong>: <em>You seem to have a lot on your plate. How do you organize your day? </em></p>
<p><strong><em>Michael: </em></strong>In a typical day, the majority of what I do is the consultation. I get up in the morning and I read a client&#8217;s script, and take extensive notes on that screenplay.</p>
<p>Later that day, I have a consulting session with that client, either in person or by phone. If it&#8217;s the first time we&#8217;ve talked, that might take up to three hours. If it&#8217;s an ongoing client, our session is closer to one and a half or two hours.</p>
<p>Then I might have another session with a writer who has outlined changes they plan to make as a result of our previous sessions. I might have a third coaching session with one of my clients who wants to get my guidance on their writing process, or on their pitch. And in between, I talk to prospective clients, write articles, prepare for lectures, add information to my web site and newsletters, and answer emails.</p>
<p>And after I&#8217;ve been in the office for about twelve hours, I&#8217;m done! And then my wife and I will have dinner and watch television or a movie. And that&#8217;s pretty much it. Glamorous, isn&#8217;t it?!</p>
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<p><strong><em>Karel: </em></strong><em>Which are your favourite TV series?</em></p>
<p><img decoding="async" class="alignright" src="https://thestorydepartment.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/byrne.jpg" alt="byrne.jpg" /><strong><em>Michael: </em></strong>Well right now there are two new series that may not yet be playing in Australia. The season is kind of truncated because of the Writers Guild strike here. But there is a half-hour series on HBO called <em>In Treatment, </em>which I love. It&#8217;s on six nights a week. Gabriel Byrne plays a psychologist, and each episode shows him in therapy with one of his clients. The series is set up so every Monday we see the same client as we saw the previous Monday, just like it would be with a real therapist. So Monday nights are about a young woman, and Tuesday night it&#8217;s about guy, and Wednesday nights it&#8217;s a teenage girl, and Thursdays a couple. Then Fridays the shrink goes to see his own therapist and talks about his own problems. It&#8217;s just talking heads, just two or three people in a room doing therapy. It&#8217;s based, I think, on an Israeli series, and it&#8217;s brilliantly written and wonderfully performed.</p>
<p>My other favourite series so far is Terminator: The Sarah Conner chronicles. I was a big terminator fan and they are doing some interesting new things with that franchise.</p>
<p><strong><em>Karel</em></strong><em>: What is your favourite classic movie?</em></p>
<p><strong><em>Michael</em></strong>: When I hear the term &#8216;classic&#8217;, I think in terms of pre-1950. I don&#8217;t think of movies from the 70&#8217;s on as classics in the same way. I guess you would have to regard <em>The Godfather</em> as a classic film. But when you say classic, I think of black and white, Hollywood in its heyday. And then I think without exception it would be <em>Casablanca</em>.</p>
<p>In more recent times, certainly <em>Chinatown</em>, certainly <em>The</em> <em>Godfather</em>. Those are sort of easy, because everybody puts those on the list. But I think any list of great movies would have to include <em>Sleepless in Seattle</em>, <em>Shrek</em>, <em>When Harry Met Sally, L.A. Confidential, </em>and a number of Woody Allen movies &#8211; but probably most of all <em>Manhattan</em>.</p>
<p>To be honest, it is an impossible question. There are so many movies that I love, so many movies I think are just wonderful. I actually hate the questions because I know I&#8217;m gonna forget to mention a movie that is just very close to me. And there are more coming along all the time!</p>
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<p><strong><em>Karel: </em></strong><em>Do you watch a movie every day?</em></p>
<p><strong><em>Michael: </em></strong>No, I probably watch on average about two movies a week, maybe three. But I watch television too, because I also consult with television writers, plus I&#8217;m a fan. I mean there are certain TV series that I really like, so I watch those. And I watch videos, and I go to the movies about once a week.</p>
<p><strong><em>Karel</em></strong><em>: Do you have any favourites that don&#8217;t follow the principles you teach?</em></p>
<p><strong>Michael</strong>: Oh yeah, yeah. There are a number of movies that I think are wonderful, that I generally don&#8217;t talk about when I lecture. The reason is: I want people to understand the core of what I consider the essential principles of story and structure and character arc and love story and eliciting emotion. So the examples I use are ones that follow the formula &#8211; if you want to call it that &#8211; so they can strengthens a writer&#8217;s understanding of it.</p>
<p>No movie breaks all the rules, but great movies often push the envelope, or they take liberties, or they fit into a niche that is less commercial.</p>
<p><a title="woodiane.JPG" href="https://thestorydepartment.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/woodiane.jpg"><img decoding="async" class="alignright" src="https://thestorydepartment.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/woodiane.jpg" alt="woodiane.JPG" /></a>So people regard <em>Annie Hall</em> as a great romantic comedy. But the basic formula for a Hollywood romantic comedy involves deception &#8211; a character with a compelling goal is lying about something to get it, then she meets someone and falls in love, but the person doesn&#8217;t know that the hero is pretending to be somebody she&#8217;s not, as in <em>Working Girl</em> or <em>Tootsie </em>or <em>The Wedding Crashers</em>. Or maybe the hero is just <em>lying, </em>as they are in a <em>Sleepless in Seattle </em>or <em>Sideways</em>. In any case, there is almost always deception, and always a happy ending.</p>
<p><em>Annie Hall</em> doesn&#8217;t have any of those elements. It is more like a dramatic love story, but it&#8217;s so funny that it is regarded as a romantic comedy. And it doesn&#8217;t have a happy ending. Woody Allen is pretty much allergic to happy endings because he sees love affairs and relationships as finite. So he breaks the rules, but it&#8217;s still a great movie.</p>
<p>Another example, one of my all-time favourite movies and one of the great screenplays coming out of Hollywood in the last twenty years, is <em>The Shawshank Redemption</em>. It certainly follows rules for creating empathy, and giving characters visible goals, and developing character arc and theme. But it doesn&#8217;t follow a common structure. Instead it uses a three-<em>stage</em> structure. We see the hero in one period of time, then we jump ahead quite a few years, see them again, jump ahead, and see them a third time. That structure is used by <em>When Harry Met Sally</em>, by <em>Steel Magnolias</em>, by <em>Driving Miss Daisy</em>, by numerous other movies. But those movies are a very small percentage of the movies Hollywood makes.</p>
<p>So that&#8217;s not a typical film, yet it&#8217;s also a great screenplay.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the way I usually say it: you can break the rules only after you know the rules so well that you can honestly say, &#8220;<em>I will elicit more emotion, and create a better emotional experience for the audience, by pushing the envelope rather than following the formula.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>When writers get in to trouble is when they say, <em>&#8220;I don&#8217;t believe in formula, I&#8217;m just going to ignore the rules and tell whatever story I want to tell.</em>&#8221; Those movies rarely work.</p>
<p>END OF PART ONE</p>
<p>For information on Michael&#8217;s books, DVDs and one-on-one consultation, or to contact him directly, please visit his web site: <a href="https://www.screenplaymastery.com/">www.ScreenplayMastery.com</a>. To register for any of his Australian seminars, go here: <a href="https://epiphany.com.au" target="_blank">www.epiphany.com.au</a>.</p>
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