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					<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m expressing my gratitude to the team behind WordPress at WordCamp Australia in Sydney. More photos on the blog of WordPress founder Matt Mullenweg. WordPress is the amazing free, Open Source software powering this and millions of other blogs around the world. (photo: Halans) Karel FG SegersKarel Segers wrote his first produced screenplay at age ... <a title="Karel at WordCamp Australia" class="read-more" href="https://www.thestorydepartment.com/karel-at-wordcamp-australia/" aria-label="Read more about Karel at WordCamp Australia">Read more</a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m expressing my gratitude to the team behind <strong><a href="https://www.wordpress.org">WordPress</a></strong> at <strong><a href="https://www.wordcamp.com.au/">WordCamp Australia</a></strong> in Sydney. <strong><a href="https://ma.tt/2008/11/wordcamp-au/" target="_blank">More photos</a></strong> on the blog of WordPress founder <strong><a href="https://ma.tt" target="_blank">Matt Mullenweg</a></strong>. WordPress is the amazing free, Open Source software powering this and millions of other blogs around the world. (photo: <strong><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/halans/">Halans</a></strong>)</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#8220;A strong inciting incident is an event that happens to the protagonist, never an action by the protagonist&#8220;, I said. Then I asked you for exceptions, i.e. strong Inciting Incidents that are actions by the protagonist. Now have a look at the first three responses I received: 1.) THELMA &#38; LOUISE, 2.) PULP FICTION and ... <a title="Exciting Coincidence?" class="read-more" href="https://www.thestorydepartment.com/exciting-coincidence/" aria-label="Read more about Exciting Coincidence?">Read more</a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><em><span style="font-weight: bold; color: #336699;">&#8220;A strong inciting incident is an event that happens to the protagonist, never an action by</span><span style="font-weight: bold; color: #336699;"> the protagonist</span>&#8220;</em><span style="color: #336699;">, I said.</span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #336699;">Then I asked you for exceptions, i.e. strong  Inciting Incidents that </span></strong><span style="color: #336699;">are <strong>actions by the protagonist.<br />
<a title="catalysts" name="catalysts"></a><br />
Now have a look at the first three responses I received: 1.) THELMA &amp; LOUISE, 2.) PULP FICTION and 3.) KING LEAR.</strong></span></p>
<p>Look at them again and see if you remember 1) who causes the inciting incident and 2)how does the character end in the story?</p>
<p>The answer is baffling.</p>
<p>1. Louise kills a man. The end: <span style="font-weight: bold">Louise dies</span>.<br />
2. Vincent kills Marvin. The end: <span style="font-weight: bold">Vincent dies</span>.<br />
3. King Lear excludes Cordelia. The end: <span style="font-weight: bold">King Lear dies.</span></p>
<p><strong>&#8220;If the protagonist triggers the story, he/she dies at the end of the story&#8221;.</strong></p>
<p>Story rule or rubbish?</p>
<p>Either way, for these three striking examples, Tom, Brett and Margaret each earned themselves three months <a href="/"><span style="font-weight: bold">Premium Subscription</span></a>. Well done.<span style="font-weight: bold"><br />
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<a href="https://bp0.blogger.com/_oLrUJV3TOrE/R-I6jEV8D_I/AAAAAAAACPA/GK37ZCDWRSs/s1600-h/chl.JPG" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img decoding="async" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5179766895565082610" style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer" src="https://bp0.blogger.com/_oLrUJV3TOrE/R-I6jEV8D_I/AAAAAAAACPA/GK37ZCDWRSs/s320/chl.JPG" border="0" alt="" /></a>Recently <span style="font-weight: bold">UNK</span> blogged about Inciting Incident (another exciting coincidence: <span style="font-style: italic">one day earlier</span>, someone hit my web site using the key words <span style="font-style: italic">inciting incident definitions.</span>) and among his favourite I.I.&#8217;s he lists COOL HAND LUKE.</p>
<p>Here we go:</p>
<p>4. Luke cracks open parking meters. The end: <span style="font-weight: bold">Luke dies.</span></p>
<p>OK. It is getting quite convincing now, if you ask me. Does it mean that EACH TIME a protagonist incites the story, we have a down ending? Probably not. Perhaps the readers of this blog just have a slight predilection for somber movies. ;)</p>
<p>Anyhow, I found the examples you sent to me striking.</p>
<p>Here are some more exceptions to the <span style="font-style: italic">&#8220;event-not-action&#8221;</span> rule I received later:<br />
<span style="font-size: 100%"><span style="font-family: georgia;">&#8211; Simon: </span></span><span style="font-style: italic; font-size: 100%"><span style="font-family: georgia;">&#8220;</span></span><span style="font-style: italic">Not my kind of thing really, but what about Ferris Bueller&#8217;s Day Off?</span><span style="font-style: italic; font-size: 100%"><span style="font-family: georgia;">&#8221;<br />
</span></span>&#8211; Simon D.: <span style="font-style: italic">&#8220;What about any story where the protagonist activates something, like the  Princess and the Frog in the pond, Pandora&#8217;s Box etc&#8221;<br />
</span>&#8211; Jim: <span style="font-style: italic">&#8220;If Russell Crowe is the Protagonist in &#8216;Yuma&#8217;, then it happens in that.&#8221;</span><br />
&#8211; Chris: <span style="font-style: italic">&#8220;3 Movies that the protagonist is responsible for the inciting  incident: Scarface, June, O Brother Where Art Thou.&#8221;</span><br />
&#8211; Robert: <span style="font-style: italic">&#8220;Chow Yun Fat&#8217;s Hitman character accidentally blinds a girl during a hit on a  triad boss that he is carrying out.  Therefore he himself sets in motion the  &#8220;inciting incident&#8221; and for the rest of the film sets out to redeem himself and  possibly help the bling girl regain her eyesight by doing more &#8220;hits&#8221; to pay for  the operation!&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span>Thank you all! It was a great exercise.<br />
</span><span style="font-style: italic"><br />
<a title="start" name="start"></a><br />
</span><span style="font-weight: bold">WHERE TO START</span></p>
<p><a href="https://bp0.blogger.com/_oLrUJV3TOrE/R-I1bEV8D6I/AAAAAAAACOY/UaC0bUaV7fM/s1600-h/pile_of_books.gif" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img decoding="async" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5179761260567990178" style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 162px; height: 145px" src="https://bp0.blogger.com/_oLrUJV3TOrE/R-I1bEV8D6I/AAAAAAAACOY/UaC0bUaV7fM/s320/pile_of_books.gif" border="0" alt="" /></a><span style="font-size: 85%">As to screenwriting theory, there are so many sources of conflicting advice it is difficult to know who to  listen to. Each new piece of advice can be as convincing as the one that came  before it. What should you do?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 85%">How do you choose who to listen to?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 85%">Do you take the word of</span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: 85%">the most influential, </span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: 85%">the most popular, </span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: 85%">the most convincing, </span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: 85%">the loudest, </span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: 85%">the most confident, </span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: 85%">or maybe what they perceive to be the safest. </span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: 85%">As a person who dishes out daily doses of advice I am as guilty as anyone out  there who tries to offer opinions of what you &#8216;should&#8217; do.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 85%">The fact is, at worst people do not have any idea what will work for you, and  at best they can only rely on their own experience. Certainly I give you the  benefit of what I have learned through my work, but you still have to work out  what will work for <em>you</em>.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 85%">I am still learning, things still take me by surprise. You may have read me  say before, I am of the opinion you can learn something from every person you  meet. Your job is to not blindly accept what you are told but collate it,  cogitate on it and apply it in your own unique way.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 85%">Work out the approaches that suit you best, that fit what you are trying to  achieve and how. Which stories resonate with you, and enthuse you, separate out  those that leave you cold.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 85%">You can never take the same journey twice, your journey is yours and  yours alone, but you can learn about possible pot holes and beauty trails from  people who have traveled a similar path before you.</span></p>
<p>Here I have to confess something: all the above (except the first four words &#8220;As to screenwriting theory&#8221;) was taken literally from <a href="https://www.chrisg.com/"><span style="font-weight: bold">Chris Garrett&#8217;s blog on blogging</span></a>. When I read it, I found it so completely true for pretty much any field of learning, including ours.</p>
<p>My own little piece of advice on where to start learning?</p>
<p>Just write, every day, undisturbed by what you learn or what people say. While you are doing so, go through the list below. And take your time.</p>
<p>1. Read McKee&#8217;s STORY, or better: listen to the audio book. You won&#8217;t learn too much about the craft, but you&#8217;ll get a feel for what you&#8217;re in for. If you have less time and you want to be fashionable, read Blake Snyder&#8217;s SAVE THE CAT.</p>
<p>2. Take a craft workshop. <a href="/story-sydney"><span style="font-weight: bold">Mine</span></a>, <a href="https://screenplaymastery.com/"><span style="font-weight: bold">Hauge&#8217;s</span></a> or <a href="https://truby.com/"><span style="font-weight: bold">John Truby&#8217;s</span></a>. Read the stuff they have published.</p>
<p>3. Watch movies a second time to break them down into acts, sequences and plot points. Dozens of them, until you start seeing the light.</p>
<p>4. Carefully choose a story consultant you can trust and you like to work with. You will continue to learn, but now specifically about your own strengths and weaknesses.</p>
<p>At this point, you will have found your vision and direction. You will see which of the <span style="font-style: italic">savants</span> out there fall within your view on storytelling. Read their books, join their seminars.</p>
<p>Finally, you are on your own, confidently.</p>
<p>And while you just continue writing, your craft will improve, and improve, and improve&#8230;<br />
<a title="confidentiality" name="confidentiality"></a></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold">CONFIDENTIALITY KILLED THE CAT</span></p>
<p>My apologies if you were re-directed here from the newsletter. The article will be re-published at a later stage.<br />
<a title="hauge" name="hauge"></a></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold">WHERE ARE YOU GOING? YOU AND YOUR HERO?</span></p>
<p><a href="https://bp3.blogger.com/_oLrUJV3TOrE/R-JOX0V8EAI/AAAAAAAACPI/WkvIXDwvp3w/s1600-h/michael.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img decoding="async" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5179788692524109826" style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 156px; height: 112px" src="https://bp3.blogger.com/_oLrUJV3TOrE/R-JOX0V8EAI/AAAAAAAACPI/WkvIXDwvp3w/s320/michael.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a>It has been the core of my consultancy and teaching: the protagonist needs a <span style="font-style: italic">clear and present desire</span>.</p>
<p>Nothing new, though, Michael Hauge has been teaching this for much longer. In the context of Michael&#8217;s visit to Australia in two months, I interviewed him and the full text will soon be available to my clients and for subscribers of The Story Dept. Here&#8217;s an excerpt:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong><em>Karel</em></strong><em>: Two problems I often find in screenplays by inexperienced writers are 1) the choice of protagonist and 2) the key qualities of the protagonist. Would you mind giving us an insight?</em></p>
<p><strong><em>Michael:</em></strong><em> </em>In almost every case where the problem <em>seems </em>to be choosing the wrong protagonist, the writer isn&#8217;t clear about what the story <em>concept </em>is, about what the hero&#8217;s <em>visible goal</em> is.</p>
<p><span style="color: gray;"><span style="color: #000000;">In other words: if the writer is operating under the belief that they just need to portray characters and show them going through a situation in their life and let&#8217;s see what happens, then </span><em style="color: #000000">that</em><span style="color: #000000;">&#8216;s the quicksand they have stepped into. Because movies are about heroes who are pursuing specific </span><em style="color: #000000">visible </em><span style="color: #000000;">goals.</span></span></p>
<p>It is about stopping the serial killer, about escaping from the panic room or from N.Y. or from Alcatraz, about winning the love of another person or winning an athletic competition. Or it&#8217;s about getting the buried treasure. But the goal must be <em>specific</em>, must be <em>visible</em>, must have a <em>clearly defined end point</em>.</p></blockquote>
<p>The first <span style="font-weight: bold">part of the full interview</span> is now online on the <a href="/"><span style="font-weight: bold">Premium Ed.</span></a> As usual, it will be visible for a few days only. After that you will need a subscription to see it. Part two and three will follow over the next few days, as well as a podcast (audio) version of the telephone interview.<br />
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<p><span style="font-weight: bold">NO POV, NO PLAY</span></p>
<p>The RATATOUILLE DVD shows has 1 (one) deleted scene. It is a long, uninterrupted travel from a wide establishing shot of the Paris skyline down to street level, through the Auguste Gusteau restaurant and ending on Remi, our hero.</p>
<p>The shot could have been spectacular, reminding of the opening shot of TOUCH OF EVIL and its pastiche in THE PLAYER.</p>
<p>Brad Bird&#8217;s commentary talks about the reason why it was cut and it is simply: <span style="font-style: italic">Point of View</span>.</p>
<blockquote><p>The natural question that would occur is <em>&#8220;Why would you cut this spectacular shot?&#8221;</em>,   because it is obviously great. <em>&#8220;I want to see <strong>that </strong>film!&#8221;</em> Well, I feel that way, too.</p>
<p>The problem, once you get passed the initial sort of rush of seeing this very elaborate shot that shows you a lot of different things in one shot and very impressively, is that <span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold">it is no character&#8217;s point of view</span>.</p>
<p>It is just a sort of God-like shot where you&#8217;re presented this whole world and it is spectacular and there have been many  fine shots like that &#8211; Touch of Evil being one &#8211; that were great but I felt that this is Remi&#8217;s movie and it needed to be Remi&#8217;s perspective.</p>
<p>And I want to know the emotions that lead up to Remi looking into the kitchen. I don&#8217;t just want it laid on a platter,  you know, just cut to Darth going <span style="font-style: italic">&#8220;You&#8217;re my son, Luke.&#8221;</span></p>
<p>We should be with Remi when he has that moment. We should know how he is experiencing it and what is he feeling when he is experiencing it. And you kind of aren&#8217;t, this way.</p>
<p>It did lay everything out, but I don&#8217;t think that it took the audience with it.</p>
<p align="right"><em>-Brad Bird</em></p>
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<p>Brad Bird&#8217;s reasoning confirms what I have written about &#8216;omniscient POV&#8217;: it is weak, or worse, it doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>Movies are inherently about empathising, even <em>identifying</em> with characters.</p>
<p>When you step out of the protagonist&#8217;s POV, it should be to shift to another POV, <span style="font-style: italic">never to take an omniscient POV</span>.</p>
<p>Omniscient POV is devoid of emotion.</p>
<p>Read some more about Point of View <span style="font-weight: bold">here</span>.</p>
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