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		<title>The Flashback: No Time Like The Present</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karel FG Segers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 10:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The flashback &#8211; like its ugly brother the Voiceover &#8211; has caused some heated debate. If used well, it can be a great way of getting exposition across or spicing up your script. If used badly, flashbacks suck. Worst case scenario, they can seriously dullify your story. by Karel Segers I&#8217;m not going to talk about all-out ... <a title="The Flashback: No Time Like The Present" class="read-more" href="https://www.thestorydepartment.com/flashbacks-no-time-like-the-present/" aria-label="Read more about The Flashback: No Time Like The Present">Read more</a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3>The flashback &#8211; like its ugly brother the Voiceover &#8211; has caused some heated debate. If used well, it can be a great way of getting exposition across or spicing up your script. If used badly, flashbacks suck. Worst case scenario, they can seriously dullify your story.</h3>
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<p><em> by Karel Segers </em></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to talk about all-out non-linear movies such as <em>Pulp Fiction</em> or <em>Memento</em> but look instead at films that have a clear story in the present, from which we &#8211; repeatedly &#8211; jump back in time.</p>
<h2>Happy In The Past</h2>
<p>Did you see <em>Ladder 49 (2004) </em>and wonder what went wrong in that movie?</p>
<p><a href="https://thestorydepartment.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/1551.jpg"><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" class="alignright wp-image-32728 size-medium" style="margin: 15px" title="Ladder_49,_2004,_Joaquin_Phoenix,_John_Travolta" src="https://thestorydepartment.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/1551-300x225.jpg" alt="Poor use of flashbacks in the movie Ladder 49" width="300" height="225" srcset="https://www.thestorydepartment.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/1551-300x225.jpg 300w, https://www.thestorydepartment.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/1551.jpg 1024w, https://www.thestorydepartment.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/1551-520x390.jpg 520w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a></p>
<p>The drama in the present is about Joaquin Phoenix&#8217; character, a firefighter trapped inside a blazing multi-story factory. While he&#8217;s lying there helplessly, he reminisces about his past life and this plays out as a series of flashbacks. This reviewer points at the main issue:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px"><a href="https://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/10/01/DDG66918PG1.DTL"> &#8220;Ladder 49&#8221; is a movie almost entirely without conflict, at least of the human variety. A firefighter&#8217;s family life is presented as next-door to idyllic. Firehouse high jinks are nothing but jolly and delightful. A comrade&#8217;s death is sad, but not ultimately unsettling.</a></p>
<p>For a full 45 minutes, flashback is used completely without drama, and the movie drags itself along at a snail&#8217;s pace. In fact we don&#8217;t care about those flashbacks much, as we just want to know what&#8217;s going to happen in the present, when our hero&#8217;s life is in danger. The problem is that this present story takes up no more than a third of the movie&#8217;s total screen time.</p>
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<p>we don&#8217;t care about those flashbacks much,<br />
as we just want to know<br />
what&#8217;s going to happen in the present.</p>
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<p>Admitted, Ladder 49 did half-okay with its worldwide, all-time gross of $100m but for a movie with Travolta and Phoenix and an undisclosed budget, this is probably the mark of a flop. Reviewers at the time suspected that the pic relied on emotions in the aftermath of 9/11 and the admiration for the Ground Zero firefighters. This theory is substantiated by the fact that the movie only made a measly 25% of its worldwide gross outside the US.</p>
<p>Back to our story analysis.</p>
<h2>Flashbacks No Fix</h2>
<p>I believe this: if a dramatic situation is set up in the present story, any time spent on a non-dramatic flashback is wasted. The audience wants to see the drama unfold, intensify and resolve in the present. And if a present-day situation is <em>not</em> dramatic, a series of dramatic flashbacks won&#8217;t fix it. Ultimately audiences are drawn to what is happening in the present-day story.</p>
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<p>any time spent on non-dramatic flashbacks is wasted.</p>
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<p>Did you see Kathryn Bigelow&#8217;s <em>The Weight Of Water (2000)</em>? Probably not. It did a measly $110,000. From what I remember, a recurring dramatic flashback informs a largely undramatic present day mystery. The result bored me senseless.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what Roger Ebert had to say about its structure, which cuts back and forth between a present and past storyline:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px"><a href="https://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20021101/REVIEWS/211010308/1023">&#8220;We don&#8217;t feel the connection, and every jump in time is a distraction.  The older story is the more absorbing.&#8221;</a></p>
<p>Recently I read two screenplays that had similar problems with their use of story time. In both scripts the flashbacks ate up more screen time than the present story. Consider this a big fat red flag. Secondly, the flashbacks were more dramatic than most of the present story.</p>
<h2>Show &#8211; Don&#8217;t Illustrate</h2>
<p><a href="https://thestorydepartment.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Clock-arcticpuppy-480.jpg"><img decoding="async" class="alignright wp-image-32732 size-medium" src="https://thestorydepartment.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Clock-arcticpuppy-480-300x199.jpg" alt="Turning back the clock with flashbacks." width="300" height="199" srcset="https://www.thestorydepartment.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Clock-arcticpuppy-480-300x199.jpg 300w, https://www.thestorydepartment.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Clock-arcticpuppy-480-587x390.jpg 587w, https://www.thestorydepartment.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Clock-arcticpuppy-480.jpg 960w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a>One of the scripts was a short film in which two people in a bar tell each other dramatic stories and these stories are shown in flashback. In my view this &#8216;illustrated telling&#8217; doesn&#8217;t qualify for &#8216;show don&#8217;t tell&#8217;. Ultimately the audience knows that in the present the two people are safe, in the bar &#8211; and this situation is completely un-dramatic.</p>
<p>Most films that use flashbacks well, do it to <em>intensify</em> the drama in the present story, not to compensate for it.</p>
<p>The other screenplay &#8211; a feature &#8211; had a gripping story in the present but for about half of the screenplay, this story is not progressed. The issue is vaguely similar to the one in <em>Ladder 49</em>. Here, the writer set up a lengthy expositional backstory of a <em>supporting</em> character in order to enhance a single dramatic moment in the third act.</p>
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<p>Most films that use flashbacks well,<br />
do it to <em>intensify</em> the drama in the present story,<br />
not to compensate for it.</p>
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<p>If you are going to use flashbacks, use them sparingly. Avoid to make them more dramatic than your story in the present.</p>
<p>Oh, and finally: don&#8217;t show flashbacks from other point of view than your main character.</p>
<p>Unless, of course, you are an <em>auteur</em>.</p>
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<h4 style="text-align: right"><em>&#8211; Karel Segers</em></h4>
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		<title>Best o/t Web 18 Apr 10</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Solmaaz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 17:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[:: Check out the &#8220;Death at a Funeral&#8221; script. :: Stop talking, checking, blogging and start writing. :: David Lynch&#8217;s favorite filmmakers in 60 seconds. :: Organic characters, memorable dialogue. :: Facing all your bad scripts, once and for all. :: What they mean by &#8220;pre-awareness title.&#8221; :: A quick and easy rom-com idea, they&#8217;re ... <a title="Best o/t Web 18 Apr 10" class="read-more" href="https://www.thestorydepartment.com/best-ot-web-18-apr-10/" aria-label="Read more about Best o/t Web 18 Apr 10">Read more</a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>:: Check out the &#8220;Death at a Funeral&#8221; script.<br />
:: <a href="https://artfulwriter.com/?p=1062" target="_blank">Stop talking, checking, blogging and start writing.</a><br />
:: <a href="https://kottke.org/10/04/david-lynch-fave-filmmakers" target="_blank">David Lynch&#8217;s favorite filmmakers in 60 seconds.</a><br />
:: <a href="https://www.justeffing.com/2010/02/06/memorable-dialogue/" target="_blank">Organic characters, memorable dialogue.</a><br />
:: <a href="https://www.justeffing.com/2010/04/14/when-good-people-write-bad-scripts-2/" target="_blank">Facing all your bad scripts, once and for all.</a><br />
:: <a href="https://www.gointothestory.com/2010/04/reader-question-what-does-pre-awareness.html" target="_blank">What they mean by &#8220;pre-awareness title.&#8221;</a><br />
:: <a href="https://www.gointothestory.com/2010/04/story-idea-per-day-for-month-day-16.html" target="_blank">A quick and easy rom-com idea, they&#8217;re everywhere.</a><br />
:: <a href="https://www.gointothestory.com/2010/04/reader-question-can-i-use-flashbacks-to.html" target="_blank">Theme and character through flashback, the &#8220;flashpresent.&#8221;</a><br />
:: <a href="https://www.gointothestory.com/2010/04/written-interview-matthew-vaughn-kick.html" target="_blank">Words with Matthew Vaughn of &#8220;Kick-Ass.&#8221;</a><br />
:: <a href="https://filmmakeriq.com/2010/04/the-virgins-promise-a-new-archetypal-structure/" target="_blank">Archetypal structure 101: The Virgin&#8217;s Promise.</a><br />
:: <a href="https://filmmakeriq.com/2010/04/script-clearance-background-copyrights-and-third-party-ownership-rights/" target="_blank">Know how know now, script clearance and screenwriting business.</a><br />
:: <a href="https://bambookillers.blogspot.com/2010/04/jane-goldman-on-kick-ass.html" target="_blank">Jane Goldman of &#8220;Kick-Ass&#8221; on the 11-year-old girl kicking ass.</a><br />
:: Keith Calder on the Arc of Awesome.</p>
<p><span id="more-9429"></span> _______________________________</p>
<h4><span style="font-weight: normal;">COMING SOON to the Story Department:</span></h4>
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<li>Story Breakdown of Gladiator</li>
<li>Script Check: Cheating</li>
<li>I don&#8217;t believe in scripts (2)</li>
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<p>With thanks to the ever amazing Sol!</p>
<p>Enjoy!</p>
<p>Karel</p>
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