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					<description><![CDATA[A friend asked me if I would be offended should he spend $600 to go see McKee in Melbourne. Years ago I happened to be in LA in the first days of release of the first edition of STORY (McKee&#8217;s bestselling book). I purchased two copies: one for myself and one for my best friend ... <a title="To McKee or not to McKee" class="read-more" href="https://www.thestorydepartment.com/to-mckee-or-not-to-mckee-1/" aria-label="Read more about To McKee or not to McKee">Read more</a>]]></description>
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<p><strong>A friend asked me if I would be offended should he spend $600 to go see McKee in Melbourne.</strong></p>
<p>Years ago I happened to be in LA in the first days of release of the first edition of STORY (McKee&#8217;s bestselling book). I purchased two copies: one for myself and one for my best friend who had attended the story seminar a couple of times and who had told me McKee had never published. McKee autographed both. Mine says:</p>
<h2 style="text-align: center"><strong>&#8220;To Karel. Tell the truth.&#8221;</strong></h2>
<p><strong>So I will.</strong></p>
<p>I have seen McKee a couple of times. He is entertaining, and has an impressive knowledge of cinema, both mainstream classics and arthouse. I think he&#8217;s worth the money &#8211; if you can afford it &#8211; for a whole weekend of entertainment. His guru-like performance also ignites inspiration with a lot of people.</p>
<p>But I have never found the level of practical, detailed and essential information that is required to successfully analyse and create screenplays. This I have found with other people such as Hauge, Vogler, Truby and Gulino.</p>
<p><strong>McKee&#8217;s weekend story seminar was the basis for his book. It is a literal transcription.<br />
</strong></p>
<p>A few years back UNK published a blog post on his experience of the story weekend and when I wanted to forward the link to my friend with the spare $600, I couldn&#8217;t find the article on his site. Fortunately Google had cached it and I have reprinted the cache below.  UNK&#8217;s post is entertaining and &#8230;</p>
<p><strong>The Truth.<br />
</strong><em>(From The Unknown Screenwriter)</em></p>
<p>&#8220;So I got my yearly Robert McKee brochure in the mail…</p>
<p>Last year when I received the exact same brochure, I read it over… Having never been to a McKee seminar but having been to every other screenwriting guru’s seminar, I figured it was worth the read…</p>
<p>After all, I had spent the money to attend the seminars of…</p>
<p>* Bill Martell<br />
* David S. Freeman<br />
* Syd Field<br />
* Blake Snyder<br />
* John Truby<br />
* Michael Hauge<br />
* Chris Vogler<br />
* Chris Soth<br />
* Screenwriting Expo</p>
<p>And, to be honest, I THOUGHT I had left the best for last… The piece de resistance if you will…</p>
<p>Uh… No.</p>
<p>The brochure last year AND this year said for me to be sure to read STORY before attending the seminar so that I would be intimately familiar with the material…</p>
<p>So I did.</p>
<p>Now I already had a copy of STORY that I purchased the first year it actually came out. I remember trying to read through it but holy shit… So much stuff to wade through back then…</p>
<p>On the other hand, I can read STORY today (which I did a year ago) and pull an enormous amount of material from it.</p>
<p>Make no mistake… From reading the book, McKee obviously knows his stuff.</p>
<p>Maybe too well… LOL.</p>
<p>Why do I say that?</p>
<p>Let me take you back to last October (from what I remember) in Los Angeles when I attended McKee’s seminar…</p>
<p>First of all, I was late. I ended up having to take the 405 freeway which I loathe and always try to avoid but a quick glance at my Google Map revealed that I had to take the 405 to get to Loyola Marymount University after all!</p>
<p>So after an easy extra hour of driving, needless to say, I arrived LATE.</p>
<p>I walk up and get my complimentary cup of coffee (thanks Bob!) just outside the building where the STORY seminar was being held, go inside to the tables where the assistants were very nice and directed me to the seminar.</p>
<p>While I stroll around the McKee tables toward the entrance to seminar I notice piles of the book, STORY…</p>
<p>Piles of the screenplay, CASABLANCA…</p>
<p>Piles of the STORY audiotapes…</p>
<p>Cool.</p>
<p>So I enter through the seminar doors about an hour late and as I walk in I hear that “PHIFFFT” sound of a few hundred people turning pages…</p>
<p>A full house to be sure.</p>
<p>I find a nice little fold-up desk in the extreme upper left-hand corner of the room… Upper left-hand corner to Mr. McKee that is.</p>
<p>I didn’t know this but he had stopped in mid-sentence to wait for me to find a seat… I thought that was pretty nice of him but when I sat down and focused my attention down at him and his table, he didn’t seem that accomodating… LOL.</p>
<p>Oops.</p>
<p>I sat down and smiled at him and when he felt like my entering the seminar was no longer an interruption, he continued…</p>
<p>He went on and I was impressed! It was like watching Hal Holbrook’s one man show of MARK TWAIN TONIGHT!</p>
<p>The only thing I kept finding strange was the consistent “PHIFFFT” of hundreds of pages turning every so often…</p>
<p>This captured my attention so I looked around and by golly if there weren’t hundreds of people turning pages as Mr. McKee progressed with his performance… er ah… course outline.</p>
<p>At first I was confused. Then I realized that everyone was following along in their book as he was going through WHAT I THOUGHT WAS HIS OUTLINE…</p>
<p>Was I missing something?</p>
<p>Oh yeah.</p>
<p>I ended up meeting a very nice female actor who was sitting next to me — also reading through the book as McKee did his schtick. When we finally had a break, I made an inquiry…</p>
<p>I asked: “Why is everyone going through the book while he speaks?”</p>
<p>She replied: “Because HE’S going through the book.”</p>
<p>I asked again: “You mean he’s going through the same topics?”</p>
<p>She replied: “No, he’s going through the book.”</p>
<p>I asked again: “You mean he’s looking at the book and expanding on the information?”</p>
<p>She replied: “No! He’s MEMORIZED the book and he’s going through it!”</p>
<p>I asked/stated: “SAY WHAT?”</p>
<p>She replied: “He’s going through the book word for word but he’s memorized it.”</p>
<p>I stated: “No fuckin’ way…”</p>
<p>She replied: “Yup.”</p>
<p>I asked: “And I paid over $500 for this?”</p>
<p>She replied: “We all did.”</p>
<p>Okay, so we went on a little more about it until the seminar started up again… I sat there in disillusionment.</p>
<p>And the rumors you heard about cellphones are in fact true… If you have a cellphone and it rings during his performance, you gotta give the guy $10.00 for interrupting. I actually liked that part of the seminar because I fucking hate cellphones and I hate people that leave their cellphones ON during any kind of seminar… Don’t EVEN ask me what I’ve done when a cellphone goes off in a movie theater… Let’s just say YOU DO NOT WANT ME IN THE THEATER IF YOUR CELLPHONE GOES OFF…</p>
<p>Anyway…</p>
<p>After lunch, McKee’s cellphone goes off… He’s looking around the audience… The audience is looking around the audience… Everybody is looking at each other until finally… He checks his own briefcase… He opens it up and sure enough, the ringing gets immediately LOUDER.</p>
<p>Everybody laughs and he turns off the phone and remarks, “I’ll pay myself later.”</p>
<p>The audience HOWLED for at least a minute… THEY LOVED IT!</p>
<p>I sat there with I know what had to be a stupid look on my face… I swear I was in the midst of mob-mentality… THIS GUY COULD DO NO WRONG!</p>
<p>At one point throughout the weekend, McKee talked about good and evil… When talking about evil, he pressed a button on a remote and a picture of Oliver North went up on the screen… Again, most everyone laughed except for myself and a very large man down in front who just happened to be a former Marine.</p>
<p>He stood up and said, “Fuck you old man!”</p>
<p>I for one was hoping this was going to get good but alas… Everyone in the seminar kept sticking up for McKee and told the guy to eat shit and get the hell out of there if he couldn’t handle it… Yada yada yada… LOL.</p>
<p>And, the former Marine did in fact leave only to show back up later and take on the mob mentality himself, by clapping and laughing at McKee’s every breath…</p>
<p>I had about all I could stand when, on Sunday, we started going through Casablanca… Of course, I didn’t buy his copy of the script so I couldn’t follow along but I have gone through Casablanca on my own many many times so I felt qualified to at least sit there and listen.</p>
<p>It was BRUTAL yet everyone was eating it up… I finally got up and hit the road. Thank fuckin’ God but I did go ahead and purchase Mr. McKee’s STORY audio book on cassette tapes (he didn’t yet have the seminar on CD).</p>
<p>As I eeked my way through the Loyola Marymount University campus on a late Sunday afternoon, I inserted tape number ONE.</p>
<p>And guess what?</p>
<p>He did memorize the book!</p>
<p>The only thing that was different on the tape were the jokes! Nobody laughed at his jokes hence, they were not funny… By the time I got back home, I was listening to him go through his discussion of CHINA TOWN.</p>
<p>Word for fucking word I listened to the tape and while I cannot say with 100% accuracy that he simply went through the book word for word (but why wouldn’t he?), these audio tapes were exactly what I had just paid over $500 to sit through on a Friday, Saturday, and Sunday when I could have been at home or my favorite coffee shop, WRITING.</p>
<p>So there you have it… You can get the entire three days on audio for $15.00 — well, that’s what it cost me at the seminar so it might be more if you purchase it elsewhere IF you can purchase it elsewhere…</p>
<p>*NOTE: I see over at Amazon, that he now has the book on CD… Nice. Anybody know how I can convert my cassette tapes over to CD?</p>
<p>Shit…</p>
<p>So now the question… To McKee or not to McKee… Is that the question?</p>
<p>Is it?</p>
<p>If you want to witness the performance, by all means… Pay the $575 and see the one man show.</p>
<p>If you want the material, read the book. That IS the seminar. Better yet… Buy the book, buy the STORY audio CD and then follow along in the privacy of your own home, coffee shop, bathroom stall, etc…</p>
<p>My only regret is not actually paying $675 instead of $575.</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>For $675, I could have gotten the latest version of Final Draft instead of paying almost $200 for it about 2 months ago…</p>
<p>I never learn.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align: right"><em><strong>-The Unknown Screenwriter</strong></em></p>
<p style="text-align: left"><strong><a href="https://johnaugust.com/archives/2003/robert-mckee">Here is another opinion, by John August</a></strong>. The disclaimer: <strong><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0041864/" target="_blank">John has written a few screenplays</a></strong> that manifestly stray from the generally accepted 3-Act convention. Up to you to decide if he&#8217;s a reliable source in this.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Should you write a happy ending? Commercial common sense will tell you: yes, you should. Robert McKee says: &#8220;Tell the truth.&#8221; (see the previous post) McKee means: your story needs to reflect your worldview. If you contradict whatever you believe in for the sake of commerce, you will fail. During his Arthouse seminar, he gives ... <a title="Arcs and Endings (2)" class="read-more" href="https://www.thestorydepartment.com/tell-the-truth/" aria-label="Read more about Arcs and Endings (2)">Read more</a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should you write a happy ending?</p>
<p>Commercial common sense will tell you: yes, you should.</p>
<p>Robert McKee says: <em>&#8220;Tell the truth.&#8221; </em>(see the previous post)</p>
<p>McKee means: your story needs to reflect your worldview. If you contradict whatever you believe in for the sake of commerce, you will fail. During his Arthouse seminar, he gives the example of Bergman&#8217;s THROUGH A GLASS DARKLY, where Bergman forced an ending upon the story in which he didn&#8217;t really believe. The story didn&#8217;t work, McKee says. Even the great Bergman couldn&#8217;t go against his instinct.</p>
<p>The discussion about happy endings is not exactly the same as the discussion about arcs. Protagonists without arcs have starred in films with tremendous success (see the reference to Mystery Man on Film in the previous post).</p>
<p>Although writers with a positive world may have more success in connecting with a large audience, I believe that talented and skilled screenwriters can create stories that work, irrespective of their worldview.</p>
<p>First-timers will have a harder time.</p>
<p>Here is the dilemma: to break in, you need to write something the market wants to see. Yet you&#8217;ll have a better chance if this first spec screenplay is written from the heart. You need to tell the truth.</p>
<p>My advice to beginning screenwriters: see how different genres allow to make different statements about the human condition without compromising the chances of success. Horror, crime and satire are darker genres than romance, adventure or kids movies.</p>
<p>Finally, to illustrate McKee&#8217;s point, below is a transcript of his introduction to THROUGH A GLASS DARKLY for British television.<br />
______________________________________</p>
<p>Robert McKee: I saw my first Bergman film in Detroit, Michigan when I was 15. It was The Virgin Spring, a tale of revenge for rape and murder. Next came a comedy, Smiles of a Summer Night. After that Brink of Life, a social drama set in a maternity ward, Monika: A Teenage Love Story, Hour of the Wolf, a psycho-horror film. Bergman was like a one-man film studio bringing a fresh eye to many genres and by word of mouth filling cinemas everywhere. But then in the sixties he became a creature of the critics. They treated his films as intellectual crossword puzzles and drove the audience back behind a barricade of critic-speak � symbology, metaphysics, alienation � until it was impossible to watch a Bergman film without the feeling that you were taking an exam. And that�s where he stands today, on a pedestal, intimidating, distant, watched only by a tiny circle of cineastes. I think that over the years we forgot what the early audiences instinctively knew � above all else, Ingmar Bergman was a master storyteller.</p>
<p>Bergman�s difficult. Not to understand, but emotionally tough. He shines light into the darkest corners of life. He asks us to empathise with complex characters who, although very human, are not particularly loveable. Then he spins his stories over an emotional rollercoaster, taking us on a quest for the truth, truth that explodes the little lies that make life comfortable. To watch a Bergman film you have to be willing to invest all your humanity, to open yourself up, to care about life so much you want to know the truth though heaven may fall. It is not intellect Bergman demands so much as courage.</p>
<p>Bergman�s also difficult because he explains nothing. He doesn�t force his ideas into the mouths of his characters. Like Hollywood he tells stories visually, writes naturalistic dialogue and layers his meaning in the subtext. Unlike Hollywood his films are not tales of wish fulfilment, telling seductive lies about how everything works out for the best.</p>
<p>1a: The Film</p>
<p>�for now we see through a glass, darkly:<br />
but then face to face; now I know in part;<br />
but then I shall know even as also I am known</p>
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		<title>Arcs and Endings (1)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The finest writing not only reveals true character, but arcs or changes to that inner nature, for better or worse. In 1998 McKee signed my first edition hardback of STORY. He wrote: “To Karel: Tell the TRUTH!” Ironically with the quote at the top of this article, McKee is not telling his own truth.(*) He ... <a title="Arcs and Endings (1)" class="read-more" href="https://www.thestorydepartment.com/no-choice-pal/" aria-label="Read more about Arcs and Endings (1)">Read more</a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: right;"><span style="color: #336699;"><em><strong>The finest writing not only reveals true character,<br />
but arcs or changes to that inner nature, for better or worse.</strong></em></span></p>
<p>In 1998 McKee signed my first edition hardback of STORY. He wrote:</p>
<h2 style="text-align: center;"><em>“To Karel: Tell the TRUTH!”</em></h2>
<p align="left">
<p>Ironically with the quote at the top of this article, McKee is not telling his own truth.(*)</p>
<p>He contradicts something he teaches in his art film seminar. On Ingmar Bergman’s THROUGH A GLASS DARKLY(**), McKee makes the point that Bergman</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>“set out to prove what he desperately wanted to believe and carefully designed this film as a rhetorical argument in dramatic form to make his point. But then his instincts, his integrity, his sense of truth overwhelmed his intellectual ambitions and somehow all the scenes that say the opposite of what he believed overwhelmed the other and as a result the film says that rather than love showing the way to happiness, the more likely fate is that you will end up alone, desperate, blinded with self deception.”</em></p>
<p>In other words:</p>
<h2 style="text-align: center;">If you don’t <em>believe</em> the happy ending, <em>don’t write it</em>.</h2>
<p align="left">
<p>If you don’t believe characters change in the real world, don’t make them in your screenplays. Tell the Truth.</p>
<p>You don’t have the option to choose between a-protag-with or a-protag-without arc. You must write what you believe in.</p>
<p>Bergman, one of the great storytellers of all time, tried to end THROUGH A GLASS DARKLY on an uplifting note.</p>
<p>He didn’t believe it. It didn’t work.</p>
<h5><em>(*) Earlier this year, Mystery Man refered to the same quote before building his brilliant <strong><a href="https://mysterymanonfilm.blogspot.com/search?q=case+against+arc" target="_blank">Case AGAINST Character <strong style="color: black; background-color: #ffff66;">Arcs</strong></a></strong>. MM substantiates his point with numerous classic films.<br />
(**) Full transcript of McKee’s television introduction to that movie in my next post.</em></h5>
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		<title>Conscious vs. Unconscious Desire</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Question: When McKee talks about the conscious desire being a contradiction of the unconscious desire, would you relate this to the mid act 2 reversal / change in approach? Or would this be true from the very start of the story, script or life of the protagonist? Answer: Let&#8217;s start with quoting exactly what it ... <a title="Conscious vs. Unconscious Desire" class="read-more" href="https://www.thestorydepartment.com/q-desire/" aria-label="Read more about Conscious vs. Unconscious Desire">Read more</a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>When McKee talks about the conscious desire being a contradiction of the unconscious desire, would you relate this to the mid act 2 reversal / change in approach? Or would this be true from the very start of the story, script or life of the protagonist?</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Answer:</strong></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s start with quoting exactly what it is that McKee says:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;The PROTAGONIST may also have a self-contradictory unconscious desire(*).&#8221;</em></p>
<p>He goes on:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Although these complex protagonists are unaware of their subconscious need, the audience senses it, perceiving in them an inner contradiction. The conscious and unconsious desires of a multidimensional protagonist contradict each other. What he believes he wants is the antithesis of what he actually but unwittingly wants.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>McKee makes a statement, then doesn&#8217;t really explain it. He doesn&#8217;t give an example either. But here is what I <em>assume</em> he means:</p>
<p>The conscious desire is what Michael Hauge calls the &#8216;<em>visible goal, with a clearly defined end point&#8217;</em>. In DIE HARD, John McClane wants to stop the gangsters and arrest them. In THE LIVES OF OTHERS, Wiesler wants to expose the theater director Dreyman. In JAWS, sheriff Brody wants to stop the shark from killing the people of Amity.</p>
<p>The subconscious desire is what John Truby calls the &#8216;need&#8217;, it is what the protagonist needs to become a more complete character, to overcome the flaw. This flaw often stops the protagonist from doing the right thing:</p>
<p>John McClane is a macho cop who can&#8217;t accept his wife to put her career first and Chief Brody can&#8217;t swim, so his fear of water keeps him initially from going out and kill the shark out on the sea. Wiesler wants to be a good man, but has only pursued this by following the stasi rule book.</p>
<p>Each of these have to overcome their flaw, before they can succeed in their outer objective: McClane makes a confession over the radio, Brody goes out on the open sea and Wiesler realises being a good man has nothing to do with justice fabricated by a totalitarian system. Sometimes this realisation happens at the mid-point, sometimes at the end of Act Two.</p>
<p>In each case, the inner need is in conflict with the outer &#8216;want&#8217; from the start. Sometimes the mid-point causes the reversal, sometimes it is the Act Two turning point.</p>
<h5><em>(*)From Robert McKee &#8220;STORY&#8221;, p.138 </em></h5>
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					<description><![CDATA[MICHAEL HAUGE is a story consultant, author and lecturer who works with writers and filmmakers. He has coached or consulted on projects for Will Smith, Julia Roberts, Robert Downey, Jr. and Morgan Freeman, plus every Hollywood studio. I am speaking with Michael about his career, his teaching and his first visit to Australia in May ... <a title="Michael Hauge Interview &#8211; Part 1" class="read-more" href="https://www.thestorydepartment.com/michael-hauge-1/" aria-label="Read more about Michael Hauge Interview &#8211; Part 1">Read more</a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3><strong>MICHAEL HAUGE </strong>is a story consultant, author and lecturer who works with writers and filmmakers. He has coached or consulted on projects for Will Smith, Julia Roberts, Robert Downey, Jr. and Morgan Freeman, plus every Hollywood studio.</h3>
<h4>I am speaking with Michael about his career, his teaching and his first visit to Australia in May of this year. With apologies for the poor audio quality of the telephone recording.</h4>
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<p><strong><em>Karel: </em></strong><em>Terry Rossio, co writer of ALADDIN, PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN and SHREK, says you are &#8220;the only screenwriting instructor who might be truly wasting his time because he should be writing screenplays instead.&#8221; That&#8217;s my first question: Have you ever felt like you were wasting your time?</em></p>
<p><strong><em>Michael: </em></strong>It&#8217;s very generous of Terry to say that. We first met when I did a special event as part of the American Screenwriters Association conference where I interviewed Ted Elliott and him. It was just when <em>SHREK</em> was in theatres. <img decoding="async" class="alignright" src="https://thestorydepartment.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/greenie.jpg" alt="greenie.JPG" width="446" height="265" />I gave a one hour lecture about <em>SHREK </em>and then they came on stage and we did a Q&amp;A. They said later they appreciated that everything I had talked about was exactly what they intended when they wrote the script.At the time they were in the midst of writing <em>Shrek 2</em> and weren&#8217;t real happy with the direction things were going, and people not appreciating their approach to it, which the studio ended up using anyway.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m wasting my time as a consultant. My strength, and my passion, is for working with writers and filmmakers, empowering them to get their stories on the page and on the screen, either by working with them one-on-one, or through my lectures, books, DVDs, articles, etc.</p>
<p><strong><em>Karel:</em></strong> <em>Have you ever written a screenplay?</em></p>
<p><strong><em>Michael:</em></strong> Some time ago I made a stab at writing a screenplay, and it was OK, but it really wasn&#8217;t where my passion was. I just have so much fun doing what I&#8217;m doing.</p>
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<p><strong><em>Karel</em></strong>:<em> How would you position yourself among the known screenwriting teachers?</em></p>
<p><strong><em>Michael:</em></strong> Good question&#8230; How would I position myself? Well, first of all I&#8217;m somebody that has been around now a long time. There are a few of us who are sort of regarded as the front guard, or the old guard.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s me, there&#8217;s Bob McKee, there&#8217;s Syd Field, Linda Seger, Chris Vogler, John Truby, Kathie Fong Yoneda, a couple more that I&#8217;ve probably forgotten. So I think that gives us all a certain cachet. We all have books; we all have reputations and so on.</p>
<p>As far as lecturing goes, we all seem to have different things that we kind of enjoy doing. Linda goes to a lot of festivals and does a lot of work outside the US. I don&#8217;t do so much outside the US and I don&#8217;t do so much lecturing as her or Chris or Bob McKee. The trip to Australia, is the first time I will have come to Australia to give a seminar or to do a workshop, so that is a bit different.</p>
<p>I think of that whole group I mentioned, I&#8217;m the one that does the most coaching. Linda writes a lot of books. Chris, is working for Paramount, and he travels to Europe a lot to lecture and collaborate on projects. But I think I&#8217;m the guy who is primarily a script consultant</p>
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<p><strong><em>Karel</em></strong><em>: In your view, are there any contradictions between the various story theories?</em></p>
<p><strong><em>Michael:</em></strong> In my experience, all those people that I mentioned, Bob and Syd and Linda and Chris and John, we all have our own approach to story, character and structure. And I have yet to find anything significant about which we disagree. It is just a different way of getting at the founding principles of story developed by Aristotle, and probably even before that.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I wanted to do the DVD of <em>The Hero</em>&#8216;<em>s 2 Journeys </em>with Chris Vogler. He uses Joseph Campbell&#8217;s model, a mythical model for approaching story. I think it is wonderful, and I think his work is among the best out there. He and I don&#8217;t really disagree on the core principles of story, we just have different approaches, so we can sort of make fun of each other and argue about that.</p>
<p>I <em>will </em>say that there are a lot of <em>myths </em>about screenwriting floating around, and some are perpetuated by other lecturers. Myths like <em>&#8216;if you live outside LA you don&#8217;t have a chance&#8217;</em> or <em>&#8216;it&#8217;s not what you know, it is who you know&#8217;</em>. It is important to know people, but you can <em>get </em>to know people. There are ways to network and contact people and get them to read your script and you&#8217;ll get to know them.</p>
<p>There are a lot of things like that, that I disagree with, but not the principles that I hear espoused by the top screenwriting teachers, or by the successful writers that I work with.</p>
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<p><strong><em>Karel</em></strong>: <em>We know you from your books and DVDs but what keeps you busy most of your time?</em></p>
<p><strong><em>Michael</em></strong>: I primarily do three things: I consult with writers, directors, producers, filmmakers and storytellers of all kind; I&#8217;m invited to lecture to lots of different groups; and I write &#8212; books and articles and so on. And of course, I have DVDs and CDs of some of the lectures that I give.</p>
<p><strong><em>Karel</em></strong>: <em>You seem to have a lot on your plate. How do you organize your day? </em></p>
<p><strong><em>Michael: </em></strong>In a typical day, the majority of what I do is the consultation. I get up in the morning and I read a client&#8217;s script, and take extensive notes on that screenplay.</p>
<p>Later that day, I have a consulting session with that client, either in person or by phone. If it&#8217;s the first time we&#8217;ve talked, that might take up to three hours. If it&#8217;s an ongoing client, our session is closer to one and a half or two hours.</p>
<p>Then I might have another session with a writer who has outlined changes they plan to make as a result of our previous sessions. I might have a third coaching session with one of my clients who wants to get my guidance on their writing process, or on their pitch. And in between, I talk to prospective clients, write articles, prepare for lectures, add information to my web site and newsletters, and answer emails.</p>
<p>And after I&#8217;ve been in the office for about twelve hours, I&#8217;m done! And then my wife and I will have dinner and watch television or a movie. And that&#8217;s pretty much it. Glamorous, isn&#8217;t it?!</p>
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<p><strong><em>Karel: </em></strong><em>Which are your favourite TV series?</em></p>
<p><img decoding="async" class="alignright" src="https://thestorydepartment.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/byrne.jpg" alt="byrne.jpg" /><strong><em>Michael: </em></strong>Well right now there are two new series that may not yet be playing in Australia. The season is kind of truncated because of the Writers Guild strike here. But there is a half-hour series on HBO called <em>In Treatment, </em>which I love. It&#8217;s on six nights a week. Gabriel Byrne plays a psychologist, and each episode shows him in therapy with one of his clients. The series is set up so every Monday we see the same client as we saw the previous Monday, just like it would be with a real therapist. So Monday nights are about a young woman, and Tuesday night it&#8217;s about guy, and Wednesday nights it&#8217;s a teenage girl, and Thursdays a couple. Then Fridays the shrink goes to see his own therapist and talks about his own problems. It&#8217;s just talking heads, just two or three people in a room doing therapy. It&#8217;s based, I think, on an Israeli series, and it&#8217;s brilliantly written and wonderfully performed.</p>
<p>My other favourite series so far is Terminator: The Sarah Conner chronicles. I was a big terminator fan and they are doing some interesting new things with that franchise.</p>
<p><strong><em>Karel</em></strong><em>: What is your favourite classic movie?</em></p>
<p><strong><em>Michael</em></strong>: When I hear the term &#8216;classic&#8217;, I think in terms of pre-1950. I don&#8217;t think of movies from the 70&#8217;s on as classics in the same way. I guess you would have to regard <em>The Godfather</em> as a classic film. But when you say classic, I think of black and white, Hollywood in its heyday. And then I think without exception it would be <em>Casablanca</em>.</p>
<p>In more recent times, certainly <em>Chinatown</em>, certainly <em>The</em> <em>Godfather</em>. Those are sort of easy, because everybody puts those on the list. But I think any list of great movies would have to include <em>Sleepless in Seattle</em>, <em>Shrek</em>, <em>When Harry Met Sally, L.A. Confidential, </em>and a number of Woody Allen movies &#8211; but probably most of all <em>Manhattan</em>.</p>
<p>To be honest, it is an impossible question. There are so many movies that I love, so many movies I think are just wonderful. I actually hate the questions because I know I&#8217;m gonna forget to mention a movie that is just very close to me. And there are more coming along all the time!</p>
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<p><strong><em>Karel: </em></strong><em>Do you watch a movie every day?</em></p>
<p><strong><em>Michael: </em></strong>No, I probably watch on average about two movies a week, maybe three. But I watch television too, because I also consult with television writers, plus I&#8217;m a fan. I mean there are certain TV series that I really like, so I watch those. And I watch videos, and I go to the movies about once a week.</p>
<p><strong><em>Karel</em></strong><em>: Do you have any favourites that don&#8217;t follow the principles you teach?</em></p>
<p><strong>Michael</strong>: Oh yeah, yeah. There are a number of movies that I think are wonderful, that I generally don&#8217;t talk about when I lecture. The reason is: I want people to understand the core of what I consider the essential principles of story and structure and character arc and love story and eliciting emotion. So the examples I use are ones that follow the formula &#8211; if you want to call it that &#8211; so they can strengthens a writer&#8217;s understanding of it.</p>
<p>No movie breaks all the rules, but great movies often push the envelope, or they take liberties, or they fit into a niche that is less commercial.</p>
<p><a title="woodiane.JPG" href="https://thestorydepartment.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/woodiane.jpg"><img decoding="async" class="alignright" src="https://thestorydepartment.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/woodiane.jpg" alt="woodiane.JPG" /></a>So people regard <em>Annie Hall</em> as a great romantic comedy. But the basic formula for a Hollywood romantic comedy involves deception &#8211; a character with a compelling goal is lying about something to get it, then she meets someone and falls in love, but the person doesn&#8217;t know that the hero is pretending to be somebody she&#8217;s not, as in <em>Working Girl</em> or <em>Tootsie </em>or <em>The Wedding Crashers</em>. Or maybe the hero is just <em>lying, </em>as they are in a <em>Sleepless in Seattle </em>or <em>Sideways</em>. In any case, there is almost always deception, and always a happy ending.</p>
<p><em>Annie Hall</em> doesn&#8217;t have any of those elements. It is more like a dramatic love story, but it&#8217;s so funny that it is regarded as a romantic comedy. And it doesn&#8217;t have a happy ending. Woody Allen is pretty much allergic to happy endings because he sees love affairs and relationships as finite. So he breaks the rules, but it&#8217;s still a great movie.</p>
<p>Another example, one of my all-time favourite movies and one of the great screenplays coming out of Hollywood in the last twenty years, is <em>The Shawshank Redemption</em>. It certainly follows rules for creating empathy, and giving characters visible goals, and developing character arc and theme. But it doesn&#8217;t follow a common structure. Instead it uses a three-<em>stage</em> structure. We see the hero in one period of time, then we jump ahead quite a few years, see them again, jump ahead, and see them a third time. That structure is used by <em>When Harry Met Sally</em>, by <em>Steel Magnolias</em>, by <em>Driving Miss Daisy</em>, by numerous other movies. But those movies are a very small percentage of the movies Hollywood makes.</p>
<p>So that&#8217;s not a typical film, yet it&#8217;s also a great screenplay.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the way I usually say it: you can break the rules only after you know the rules so well that you can honestly say, &#8220;<em>I will elicit more emotion, and create a better emotional experience for the audience, by pushing the envelope rather than following the formula.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>When writers get in to trouble is when they say, <em>&#8220;I don&#8217;t believe in formula, I&#8217;m just going to ignore the rules and tell whatever story I want to tell.</em>&#8221; Those movies rarely work.</p>
<p>END OF PART ONE</p>
<p>For information on Michael&#8217;s books, DVDs and one-on-one consultation, or to contact him directly, please visit his web site: <a href="https://www.screenplaymastery.com/">www.ScreenplayMastery.com</a>. To register for any of his Australian seminars, go here: <a href="https://epiphany.com.au" target="_blank">www.epiphany.com.au</a>.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#8220;A strong inciting incident is an event that happens to the protagonist, never an action by the protagonist&#8220;, I said. Then I asked you for exceptions, i.e. strong Inciting Incidents that are actions by the protagonist. Now have a look at the first three responses I received: 1.) THELMA &#38; LOUISE, 2.) PULP FICTION and ... <a title="Exciting Coincidence?" class="read-more" href="https://www.thestorydepartment.com/exciting-coincidence/" aria-label="Read more about Exciting Coincidence?">Read more</a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><em><span style="font-weight: bold; color: #336699;">&#8220;A strong inciting incident is an event that happens to the protagonist, never an action by</span><span style="font-weight: bold; color: #336699;"> the protagonist</span>&#8220;</em><span style="color: #336699;">, I said.</span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #336699;">Then I asked you for exceptions, i.e. strong  Inciting Incidents that </span></strong><span style="color: #336699;">are <strong>actions by the protagonist.<br />
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Now have a look at the first three responses I received: 1.) THELMA &amp; LOUISE, 2.) PULP FICTION and 3.) KING LEAR.</strong></span></p>
<p>Look at them again and see if you remember 1) who causes the inciting incident and 2)how does the character end in the story?</p>
<p>The answer is baffling.</p>
<p>1. Louise kills a man. The end: <span style="font-weight: bold">Louise dies</span>.<br />
2. Vincent kills Marvin. The end: <span style="font-weight: bold">Vincent dies</span>.<br />
3. King Lear excludes Cordelia. The end: <span style="font-weight: bold">King Lear dies.</span></p>
<p><strong>&#8220;If the protagonist triggers the story, he/she dies at the end of the story&#8221;.</strong></p>
<p>Story rule or rubbish?</p>
<p>Either way, for these three striking examples, Tom, Brett and Margaret each earned themselves three months <a href="/"><span style="font-weight: bold">Premium Subscription</span></a>. Well done.<span style="font-weight: bold"><br />
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<a href="https://bp0.blogger.com/_oLrUJV3TOrE/R-I6jEV8D_I/AAAAAAAACPA/GK37ZCDWRSs/s1600-h/chl.JPG" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img decoding="async" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5179766895565082610" style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer" src="https://bp0.blogger.com/_oLrUJV3TOrE/R-I6jEV8D_I/AAAAAAAACPA/GK37ZCDWRSs/s320/chl.JPG" border="0" alt="" /></a>Recently <span style="font-weight: bold">UNK</span> blogged about Inciting Incident (another exciting coincidence: <span style="font-style: italic">one day earlier</span>, someone hit my web site using the key words <span style="font-style: italic">inciting incident definitions.</span>) and among his favourite I.I.&#8217;s he lists COOL HAND LUKE.</p>
<p>Here we go:</p>
<p>4. Luke cracks open parking meters. The end: <span style="font-weight: bold">Luke dies.</span></p>
<p>OK. It is getting quite convincing now, if you ask me. Does it mean that EACH TIME a protagonist incites the story, we have a down ending? Probably not. Perhaps the readers of this blog just have a slight predilection for somber movies. ;)</p>
<p>Anyhow, I found the examples you sent to me striking.</p>
<p>Here are some more exceptions to the <span style="font-style: italic">&#8220;event-not-action&#8221;</span> rule I received later:<br />
<span style="font-size: 100%"><span style="font-family: georgia;">&#8211; Simon: </span></span><span style="font-style: italic; font-size: 100%"><span style="font-family: georgia;">&#8220;</span></span><span style="font-style: italic">Not my kind of thing really, but what about Ferris Bueller&#8217;s Day Off?</span><span style="font-style: italic; font-size: 100%"><span style="font-family: georgia;">&#8221;<br />
</span></span>&#8211; Simon D.: <span style="font-style: italic">&#8220;What about any story where the protagonist activates something, like the  Princess and the Frog in the pond, Pandora&#8217;s Box etc&#8221;<br />
</span>&#8211; Jim: <span style="font-style: italic">&#8220;If Russell Crowe is the Protagonist in &#8216;Yuma&#8217;, then it happens in that.&#8221;</span><br />
&#8211; Chris: <span style="font-style: italic">&#8220;3 Movies that the protagonist is responsible for the inciting  incident: Scarface, June, O Brother Where Art Thou.&#8221;</span><br />
&#8211; Robert: <span style="font-style: italic">&#8220;Chow Yun Fat&#8217;s Hitman character accidentally blinds a girl during a hit on a  triad boss that he is carrying out.  Therefore he himself sets in motion the  &#8220;inciting incident&#8221; and for the rest of the film sets out to redeem himself and  possibly help the bling girl regain her eyesight by doing more &#8220;hits&#8221; to pay for  the operation!&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span>Thank you all! It was a great exercise.<br />
</span><span style="font-style: italic"><br />
<a title="start" name="start"></a><br />
</span><span style="font-weight: bold">WHERE TO START</span></p>
<p><a href="https://bp0.blogger.com/_oLrUJV3TOrE/R-I1bEV8D6I/AAAAAAAACOY/UaC0bUaV7fM/s1600-h/pile_of_books.gif" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img decoding="async" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5179761260567990178" style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 162px; height: 145px" src="https://bp0.blogger.com/_oLrUJV3TOrE/R-I1bEV8D6I/AAAAAAAACOY/UaC0bUaV7fM/s320/pile_of_books.gif" border="0" alt="" /></a><span style="font-size: 85%">As to screenwriting theory, there are so many sources of conflicting advice it is difficult to know who to  listen to. Each new piece of advice can be as convincing as the one that came  before it. What should you do?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 85%">How do you choose who to listen to?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 85%">Do you take the word of</span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: 85%">the most influential, </span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: 85%">the most popular, </span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: 85%">the most convincing, </span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: 85%">the loudest, </span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: 85%">the most confident, </span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: 85%">or maybe what they perceive to be the safest. </span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: 85%">As a person who dishes out daily doses of advice I am as guilty as anyone out  there who tries to offer opinions of what you &#8216;should&#8217; do.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 85%">The fact is, at worst people do not have any idea what will work for you, and  at best they can only rely on their own experience. Certainly I give you the  benefit of what I have learned through my work, but you still have to work out  what will work for <em>you</em>.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 85%">I am still learning, things still take me by surprise. You may have read me  say before, I am of the opinion you can learn something from every person you  meet. Your job is to not blindly accept what you are told but collate it,  cogitate on it and apply it in your own unique way.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 85%">Work out the approaches that suit you best, that fit what you are trying to  achieve and how. Which stories resonate with you, and enthuse you, separate out  those that leave you cold.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 85%">You can never take the same journey twice, your journey is yours and  yours alone, but you can learn about possible pot holes and beauty trails from  people who have traveled a similar path before you.</span></p>
<p>Here I have to confess something: all the above (except the first four words &#8220;As to screenwriting theory&#8221;) was taken literally from <a href="https://www.chrisg.com/"><span style="font-weight: bold">Chris Garrett&#8217;s blog on blogging</span></a>. When I read it, I found it so completely true for pretty much any field of learning, including ours.</p>
<p>My own little piece of advice on where to start learning?</p>
<p>Just write, every day, undisturbed by what you learn or what people say. While you are doing so, go through the list below. And take your time.</p>
<p>1. Read McKee&#8217;s STORY, or better: listen to the audio book. You won&#8217;t learn too much about the craft, but you&#8217;ll get a feel for what you&#8217;re in for. If you have less time and you want to be fashionable, read Blake Snyder&#8217;s SAVE THE CAT.</p>
<p>2. Take a craft workshop. <a href="/story-sydney"><span style="font-weight: bold">Mine</span></a>, <a href="https://screenplaymastery.com/"><span style="font-weight: bold">Hauge&#8217;s</span></a> or <a href="https://truby.com/"><span style="font-weight: bold">John Truby&#8217;s</span></a>. Read the stuff they have published.</p>
<p>3. Watch movies a second time to break them down into acts, sequences and plot points. Dozens of them, until you start seeing the light.</p>
<p>4. Carefully choose a story consultant you can trust and you like to work with. You will continue to learn, but now specifically about your own strengths and weaknesses.</p>
<p>At this point, you will have found your vision and direction. You will see which of the <span style="font-style: italic">savants</span> out there fall within your view on storytelling. Read their books, join their seminars.</p>
<p>Finally, you are on your own, confidently.</p>
<p>And while you just continue writing, your craft will improve, and improve, and improve&#8230;<br />
<a title="confidentiality" name="confidentiality"></a></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold">CONFIDENTIALITY KILLED THE CAT</span></p>
<p>My apologies if you were re-directed here from the newsletter. The article will be re-published at a later stage.<br />
<a title="hauge" name="hauge"></a></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold">WHERE ARE YOU GOING? YOU AND YOUR HERO?</span></p>
<p><a href="https://bp3.blogger.com/_oLrUJV3TOrE/R-JOX0V8EAI/AAAAAAAACPI/WkvIXDwvp3w/s1600-h/michael.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img decoding="async" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5179788692524109826" style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 156px; height: 112px" src="https://bp3.blogger.com/_oLrUJV3TOrE/R-JOX0V8EAI/AAAAAAAACPI/WkvIXDwvp3w/s320/michael.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a>It has been the core of my consultancy and teaching: the protagonist needs a <span style="font-style: italic">clear and present desire</span>.</p>
<p>Nothing new, though, Michael Hauge has been teaching this for much longer. In the context of Michael&#8217;s visit to Australia in two months, I interviewed him and the full text will soon be available to my clients and for subscribers of The Story Dept. Here&#8217;s an excerpt:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong><em>Karel</em></strong><em>: Two problems I often find in screenplays by inexperienced writers are 1) the choice of protagonist and 2) the key qualities of the protagonist. Would you mind giving us an insight?</em></p>
<p><strong><em>Michael:</em></strong><em> </em>In almost every case where the problem <em>seems </em>to be choosing the wrong protagonist, the writer isn&#8217;t clear about what the story <em>concept </em>is, about what the hero&#8217;s <em>visible goal</em> is.</p>
<p><span style="color: gray;"><span style="color: #000000;">In other words: if the writer is operating under the belief that they just need to portray characters and show them going through a situation in their life and let&#8217;s see what happens, then </span><em style="color: #000000">that</em><span style="color: #000000;">&#8216;s the quicksand they have stepped into. Because movies are about heroes who are pursuing specific </span><em style="color: #000000">visible </em><span style="color: #000000;">goals.</span></span></p>
<p>It is about stopping the serial killer, about escaping from the panic room or from N.Y. or from Alcatraz, about winning the love of another person or winning an athletic competition. Or it&#8217;s about getting the buried treasure. But the goal must be <em>specific</em>, must be <em>visible</em>, must have a <em>clearly defined end point</em>.</p></blockquote>
<p>The first <span style="font-weight: bold">part of the full interview</span> is now online on the <a href="/"><span style="font-weight: bold">Premium Ed.</span></a> As usual, it will be visible for a few days only. After that you will need a subscription to see it. Part two and three will follow over the next few days, as well as a podcast (audio) version of the telephone interview.<br />
<a title="ratatouille" name="ratatouille"></a></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold">NO POV, NO PLAY</span></p>
<p>The RATATOUILLE DVD shows has 1 (one) deleted scene. It is a long, uninterrupted travel from a wide establishing shot of the Paris skyline down to street level, through the Auguste Gusteau restaurant and ending on Remi, our hero.</p>
<p>The shot could have been spectacular, reminding of the opening shot of TOUCH OF EVIL and its pastiche in THE PLAYER.</p>
<p>Brad Bird&#8217;s commentary talks about the reason why it was cut and it is simply: <span style="font-style: italic">Point of View</span>.</p>
<blockquote><p>The natural question that would occur is <em>&#8220;Why would you cut this spectacular shot?&#8221;</em>,   because it is obviously great. <em>&#8220;I want to see <strong>that </strong>film!&#8221;</em> Well, I feel that way, too.</p>
<p>The problem, once you get passed the initial sort of rush of seeing this very elaborate shot that shows you a lot of different things in one shot and very impressively, is that <span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold">it is no character&#8217;s point of view</span>.</p>
<p>It is just a sort of God-like shot where you&#8217;re presented this whole world and it is spectacular and there have been many  fine shots like that &#8211; Touch of Evil being one &#8211; that were great but I felt that this is Remi&#8217;s movie and it needed to be Remi&#8217;s perspective.</p>
<p>And I want to know the emotions that lead up to Remi looking into the kitchen. I don&#8217;t just want it laid on a platter,  you know, just cut to Darth going <span style="font-style: italic">&#8220;You&#8217;re my son, Luke.&#8221;</span></p>
<p>We should be with Remi when he has that moment. We should know how he is experiencing it and what is he feeling when he is experiencing it. And you kind of aren&#8217;t, this way.</p>
<p>It did lay everything out, but I don&#8217;t think that it took the audience with it.</p>
<p align="right"><em>-Brad Bird</em></p>
</blockquote>
<p>Brad Bird&#8217;s reasoning confirms what I have written about &#8216;omniscient POV&#8217;: it is weak, or worse, it doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>Movies are inherently about empathising, even <em>identifying</em> with characters.</p>
<p>When you step out of the protagonist&#8217;s POV, it should be to shift to another POV, <span style="font-style: italic">never to take an omniscient POV</span>.</p>
<p>Omniscient POV is devoid of emotion.</p>
<p>Read some more about Point of View <span style="font-weight: bold">here</span>.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nafa &#8211; Choctops Meeting: 18/2/08 (Report by John Haly, Thank you to Tony Chu) Karel -a Belgian producer and script consultant &#8211; founded OZZYWOOD Films and The Story Department (which is a unique Australian blog and online resource for screen story theory). Karel headed production and programming at London&#8217;s Digital Broadcasting Company and was a ... <a title="The Story Revolution" class="read-more" href="https://www.thestorydepartment.com/the-story-revolution/" aria-label="Read more about The Story Revolution">Read more</a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.nafa.net.au/news/2008/2/7/choc-tops-meeting-what-our-industry-needs-is-a-story-revolut.html" target="_blank"><strong>Nafa &#8211; Choctops Meeting: 18/2/08</strong></a></p>
<p align="right"><em><span lang="EN-AU">(Report by John Haly,<br />
Thank you to <a title="Tony Chu - Nafa" href="https://www.nafa.net.au/cpt/" target="_blank">Tony Chu</a>)</span></em></p>
<h5><span lang="EN-AU"><em>Karel -a Belgian producer and script consultant &#8211; founded OZZYWOOD Films and The Story Department (w<span style="color: black;">hich is a unique Australian blog<strong> </strong>and<span> </span></span>online resource for screen story theory).<span> </span>Karel headed production and programming at London&#8217;s Digital Broadcasting Company and was a film buyer for CANAL+, (Europe&#8217;s largest pay TV service).<span> </span>He was the host for a movie show for MTV Europe.<span> </span>His production credits included two short dramas, a documentary and a feature film.<span> </span>In post-production, he has a short animation and a feature film.<span> </span>As a script consultant, he has clients both in Australia and overseas.<span> </span>Of interest to Nafa members, he also runs regular workshops on script writing.<span> </span>A notable fact is that the 2007 nominees and also the winner of the Australian Writer Guild Monte Miller Award were Karel&#8217;s clients.<span> </span>Accordingly, if you are a script writer, you will, indeed, be well advised to pay particular attention to his views on &#8216;What our industry needs is a Story Revolution&#8217;.</em></span></h5>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Karel began by delving back into his personal history stating that he had started in Radio as a reporter who would phone in initial reviews of films for night radio &#8211;<span> </span>a far cry from the online internet reviewing of films of the contemporary culture.<span> </span>His first venture into a screenplay dates back to 1989, although he admits to abandoning that path because of early criticism by an established script writer.<span> </span>His next attempt was twelve years later, and he promptly lost the first draft. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">In 2001, he moved to Australia where he co-produced a documentary and then a short film, but the last didn&#8217;t go anywhere.<span> </span>The next film was &#8220;Aerosol&#8221; which was dispatched to, and was selected by a few film festivals, but won no significant prizes.<span> </span>As a consequence, he then contemplated a change of direction and began studying and reading in an effort to get new insights as to the creative writing process.<span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">The author at the top of his reading list was Robert McKee. <span> </span>McKee&#8217;s book, &#8216;Story&#8217; is considered by some as the &#8220;screenwriters&#8217; bible&#8221;.<span> </span>When purchasing the software for screen writing called &#8216;Power Structure&#8217;, he was offered at a reduced price a DVD called &#8216;The Hero&#8217;s 2 Journeys&#8217; which was promoted as extremely enlightening material capable of educating writers and which revealed the template upon which the vast majority of successful stories and Hollywood blockbusters are based. <span> </span>Michael Hauge and Christopher Vogler&#8217;s DVD opened Karel&#8217;s eyes as it offered a unique insiders&#8217; understanding of the ways screenplay structure, character, and theme must combine to be successful.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Karel became aware of the sad fact that there seemed to be little by the way of &#8216;Story Education&#8217; available in Australia.<span> </span>Michael Hauge&#8217;s principles were applied in advising writers of script plays.<span> </span>With the aid of AFC funding, it became possible to produce a following accompanied by good results.<span> </span>He educated writers that the structure of writing was important, particularly from the perspective of Character.<span> </span>His insight centred on the question: Where does drama happen?<span> </span>He emphasises that it is not in the visualisation of the story, but the subtext beneath the story that good scriptwriting lies.<span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">The fault to which many writers fall prey is that of visualising the scene as they are writing, thus thinking in terms of pictures. As it is a visual media up with which we end, we must keep in mind into what it is that a visual story latches in the minds of the audience &#8211; for example, that of &#8216;Desire&#8217;!<span> </span>The question that ought to be at the centre of your script should focus on the desires and objectives of your characters because film &#8216;hangs together&#8217; with the emotions of &#8220;Desire&#8221;.<span> </span><br />
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">A frequent criticism of Australian films is that they have weak protagonists, (i.e. those without will power).<span> </span>If you give your protagonist a visible goal with a desire and will to get there, then you are more likely to engage your audience.<span> </span>The essence of Michael Hauge&#8217;s proposition is that you need a character <span> </span>who has a visible goal with a clearly defined <span style="color: black;">end-point.</span><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Karel recalled the Columbia University educator, Frank Daniel, who was noted for his development of the sequence paradigm of Screenwriting. <span> </span>Frank&#8217;s conception of a good protagonist was &#8216;somebody who wants something badly and has difficulty getting it.&#8221; </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Karel turned to the audience to ask, &#8216;As a screen writer what is your primary goal?&#8217; After a few financial and entertaining replies, someone suggested &#8216;to tell a story&#8217;. Karel then asked, &#8216;Why are you telling that story?&#8217;  Quoting Michael Hauge, his answer was two words, &#8216;elicit emotion&#8217;.<span> </span>In order to do this, there are three things with which a screen writer can play. </span>1. Character, 2. Desire, 3. Conflict.</p>
<p>The best way Karel can find to illustrate this is simply through the examples of successful films, which is what he uses when he runs his workshops.<span> </span>Irrespective of whether it is a Mainline or Arthouse movie, they all follow the same structure.<span> </span><span> </span>The film &#8216;Die Hard&#8217; deals with a man seeking to stop the criminals.<span> </span>&#8216;Jaws&#8217; relates to a man&#8217;s desire to stop the Shark.<span> </span>Consider an Oscar winning Arthouse movie: &#8220;The Lives of Others&#8217; where in the first half, the protagonist desires to expose the director while in the second half, he wishes to protect him.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">As a screenwriter, you need to structure the desire.<span> </span>(Characters need structure in their desire).<span> </span>Your audience needs to know in the first act what that desire is.<span> </span>Your character also needs to resonate with the audience, exhibiting his or her human flaws.<span> </span>It is the flaw that holds the need of the protagonist.<span> </span>In &#8216;Die Hard, while desiring to stop the criminals, his flaw was that he was afraid to tackle the criminals who held his wife hostage.<span> </span>In the &#8220;The Lives of Others&#8221;, the protagonist changes his mind mid way.<span> </span>Audiences expect to perceive this desire, even if it is not spelled out.<span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">As Aristotle distinguishes: a whole is that which has a beginning, a middle, and an end.<span> </span>In the beginning, the audience is introduced to the setting, the characters, their situation,/conflict and the goal they desire.<span> </span>In short, something happens, unexpectedly, which defines the story to come.<span> </span>To paraphrase Aristotle, &#8216;A beginning is that which does not itself follow anything by causal necessity, but after which something naturally is or comes to be&#8217;.<span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">In &#8216;Die Hard&#8217; the building is stopped while John McClane goes up to the highest floor to get a bird&#8217;s eye perspective and think through his options. He says to himself, &#8216;Think, think, think&#8217;.  [KS:  The exact same words are used by Woody in Toy Story  2 after Wheezy is taken away.] The initial plot point of confusion [KS: In the Hero&#8217;s Journey the &#8216;Mentor&#8217; stage, <em>&#8216;Refusing the Call&#8217;</em>] shifts to the derivation of a plan and new plot point &#8211; an event followed by a reaction.<span> </span>Something happens, a plan evolves and the pursuit of activity begins and continues all the way to a resolution.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Karel advised that as a Script writer you should ask yourself, &#8216;What is the reason this story is being told?&#8217;.<span> </span>As for Karel himself, he was sitting here talking to us because he was strongly motivated by the desire to see a revolution in the way Australian Script writers create stories.<span> </span>He proclaimed, &#8216;Make sure there is a connection between yourself and the story you are telling. There is a requirement to <em>want</em> to connect to an audience.&#8217;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">It is in the tribal ethos of ancient days that the storyteller tells stories relevant to their tribes.<span> </span>They are told not only to get the message across, but also to create such <span> </span>impact that the stories are repeatedly retold to subsequent generations of that tribe.<span> </span>It is important whether you be scriptwriters or producers or directors, that you choose the scripts that can best tell the story.<span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Be aware that the contemporary tribe of humanity is being conditioned by the way a story is being told in film and theatre.<span> </span>Be conscious of writing structure as it is entering an arena, a tribe, a society that is accustomed to perceive in a specific manner.<span> </span>Don&#8217;t be dismissive of the formula for telling the story in film just because you want to be &#8216;different&#8217;, or because your audience has been conditionally seasoned, even if they are not consciously aware of being told a story with a definite style.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Karel moved on to seek to discredit a few commonly held myths.<span> </span>The first one is that writers should rush out and buy specific Screen Writing Software such as &#8216;Final Draft&#8217;.<span> </span>In the first place, there are plenty of free alternatives out there for Microsoft word templates, [KS: Celtx] etc.<span> </span>Primarily, it initially tempts you to write in scenes, when it is the story you first need to relate.<span> </span>Reading scripts to get the format right as a pre-requisite encourages the visualisation of scenes when first, you should be concentrating on the story.<span> </span>Try watching a movie, break it down and decode it yourself rather than reading or writing a script (story first, script last).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">The next myth concerns language.<span> </span>Some writers love flowery prose.<span> </span>Question yourself as to whether your objective is to write something that only reads well, or do you wish to write a story of substance?<span> </span>Identify: where is the story?<span> </span>Do you have a character with a desire?<span> </span>Where is the conflict in the story?<span> </span>This, as your primary guideline becomes the focus of the storyline.<span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">The next myth concerns Log Lines.<span> </span>(A Log Line is a brief summary of the film, often providing both a synopsis of the program&#8217;s plot, and an emotional &#8220;hook&#8221; to stimulate interest).<span> </span>Karel confessed for a long time that he believed that the Log Line was the last thing you wrote after the script and synopsis.<span> </span>He is now firmly convinced the opposite is true.<span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">If you want to know more about the importance of Log Lines go to &#8216;The Unknown Screen Writer&#8217; and &#8216;<a href="https://mysterymanonfilm.blogspot.com" target="_blank">Mystery Man on Film</a>&#8216;. <span> </span>These will help you <strong>to use correctly </strong>the Log Lines &#8211; a procedure the importance of which cannot be overestimated.<span> </span><span> </span>These are the selling lines of your film which you must know before you start writing.<span> </span>Formulate a Log Line of: who is your character?<span> </span>What does the character want?- and- What is the obstacle(s) in his way?<span> </span>Try to compose your log line by writing it down as soon as possible as this keeps you in focus.<span> </span>That great idea that pops into your head during the writing! Does it fit into your Log Line?<span> </span>If not, put it aside because it has no place in your story.<span> </span>Keep it for your next script.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Karel then suggested that the biggest mistake people make in the attempt to sell their scripts is to dispatch them too early.<span> </span>Sending and then resending draft versions is the quickest way to ensure that the people reading the dispatched articles lose interest.<span> </span>By resending a newer, updated version of the script, you are admitting to the producer or director that you sent them a previous script that you well knew wasn&#8217;t ready.<span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Following on from that theme, Karel pointed out that formatting the script is not important until you have the story written.<span> </span>As Art Arthur said: &#8216;Don&#8217;t get it right, get it written!&#8217;<span> </span>Once it is written in the final draft, <em>THEN</em> there are formatting rules to which you need to comply.<span> </span>It is then that those slug lines, script punctation and the absence of typos needs to be scrupulously addressed.<span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Karel noted that <span> </span>studies of the Australian Government Feature Film Funding have shown that only about 19 out of some 419 films actually made money.<span> </span>He impressively expressed the point that our essential requirement was to think about the market.<span> </span>Again, he reiterated the need for writers to understand and act on the principles espoused in &#8220;The Hero&#8217;s Journey&#8221;.<span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Despite the perception that both Germans and Australians possess an inherent hero phobia, explore the successful films in our own industry, and that, in itself, will disabuse any such notion.<span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">At this point, Jeanie opened the floor to questions.<span> </span>These included ones concerning the cultural differences between countries when it came to making films.<span> </span>This, in turn, raised the topic of our anxiety of being commercially successful.<span> </span>Questions about breaking the rules for film structure returned a reply of: &#8216;how about mastering the &#8216;<strong>Rules</strong>&#8216; first <em>BEFORE</em> contemplating breaking them-<span> </span>not the other way around.</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-AU">Tony concluded the evening by thanking Karel for his contribution. <span> </span>Karel spoke privately to people as they approached him and eventually the evening broke up, as actors, producers and director&#8217;s networks chatted on before <span> </span>being kindly ejected by the Bar Staff wishing to close.<span> </span>Some of us spilled out onto the sidewalks to continue our conversations till the passing night drew us to the consideration that we should be homeward bound.</span></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[The first step for many aspiring screenwriters is to purchase a piece of pricey screenwriting software. Some call it retail therapy. You are not a screenwriter until you have made that sacrifice, until you have invested money in your career, right? I call it a waste of $250. Your first draft should be a quick ... <a title="How important are format and style?" class="read-more" href="https://www.thestorydepartment.com/how-important-is-style-and-layout/" aria-label="Read more about How important are format and style?">Read more</a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first step  for many aspiring screenwriters is to purchase a piece of pricey screenwriting software.</p>
<p>Some call it retail therapy.</p>
<p>You are not a screenwriter until you have made that sacrifice, until you have invested money in your career, right?</p>
<p>I call it a waste of $250.</p>
<p>Your first draft should be a quick and dirty braindump. &#8220;Don&#8217;t get it right, get it written,&#8221; dixit Art Arthur.</p>
<p>Of course, it has its advantages to write your first draft in some sort of a script format. See it as an exercise in format and style, plus you have a rough idea of the screen time.</p>
<p>However, for this they have invented free MS Word templates, style sheets or even better: Celtx.</p>
<blockquote><p>Format and style are totally irrelevant.</p></blockquote>
<p>If you are fiddling to get the wording of your <em>action</em> right, to make your characters sound like &#8216;real people&#8217;, to come up with really cool visuals, you are wasting your time.</p>
<p>If this is your <em>first draft</em>, nobody will ever see it, except your story editor or script consultant. And if the first script feedback is all about format, style, dialogue and scene construction, you haven&#8217;t given the editor the right brief.</p>
<p>Or perhaps you should change editors.</p>
<p>You should be working on that story, which currently may not even <em>be </em>a story yet. If McKee&#8217;s statistics are right, ninety percent of what you have written will go. Won&#8217;t make it to the screen. At least not for this film.</p>
<p>Now, because of my emphasis on <em>story</em>, it may seem as if I think the presentation of the screenplay is less important.</p>
<p>But can you afford to shop around an excellent story but scripted in a way that looks sloppy and rushed?</p>
<p>Of course you can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I was talking about early drafts.</p>
<p>Once you are sending a script for consideration to producers, studios or talent, it has to be immaculate. Nothing must distract from a smooth read.</p>
<p>Your formatting has to be <em>completely</em> in line with the standards of the country (Letter format if you&#8217;re based in the US, A4 elsewhere), the company (if it&#8217;s a major studio) or even the person (if it&#8217;s, say, Spielberg) you are sending the script to.</p>
<p>Why am I so paranoid about this?</p>
<p>Because others are.</p>
<p>Imagine this: a reader or executive has just read an &#8216;okay&#8217; story. But it was a terrific read: an elegantly flowing script, no typos, great style, a fast read with &#8220;lots of white&#8221;.</p>
<p>Your script is next.</p>
<p>Your story is on par with the previous one, but by page 10 this reader has found three typos, a couple of &#8220;we see&#8221;&#8216;s and some awkward sluglines.</p>
<p>Your story may have had the same potential. Yes, it could have been produced for less money and audiences might have loved the movie better.</p>
<p>Still, you&#8217;re out.</p>
<p>The other writer might have been equally talented; he was more professional. If you want to play with the pros, you&#8217;ll have to be ready to write fast, re-write fast, and keep the same level of professionalism. If you can&#8217;t even get that first spec script right &#8211; which they know you have laboured over for years &#8211; you&#8217;re not up for the challenge.</p>
<p>And guess what: in the books of this reader, producer or company, not just your script but even <em>you</em> may be history. They probably have a sufficient amount of fresh offerings every day so they feel perfectly happy to bar you from ever submitting anything ever again.</p>
<p>If you are serious about earning six or seven figure fees in your new career, prove it. Before you send out your script, invest a few hundred dollars in having it read and polished by a pro.</p>
<p>Now&#8230;</p>
<p>Did you just realise your script has gone out to more than one company? Like&#8230; all of them?</p>
<blockquote><p>Bad format and style can kill your career.</p></blockquote>
<p>Better start thinking about a cool &#8216;nom de plume&#8217;.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3>Your primary focus is on story and less on writing scenes, sharp dialogue or gripping action.</h3>
<h3>Inevitably, though, once figured out your characters and their journeys, you are down to the daunting task of writing that next draft.</h3>
<p>You will be writing at the scene level, and a slightly different set of rules comes into play.</p>
<p>Suddenly the very particular way in which you organize and formulate your thoughts becomes crucially important, as your mastery of language, i.e. grammar and vocabulary.</p>
<p>From the most common mistakes I have found in my clients&#8217; scene writing, I have deducted three particular qualities.These three qualities your screenplay MUST have if you want the discerning reader to continue reading all the way to THE END, if you want your script to stand up to the competition and have a chance of being produced.</p>
<p>In each and every scene of your screenplay, your writing must be:</p>
<h4 style="padding-left: 60px;">1. <strong>C</strong>lear<br />
2. <strong>C</strong>oncise<br />
3. <strong>C</strong>olorful</h4>
<p>Let&#8217;s look at these primary qualities one by one, in order of decreasing priority:</p>
<h4>CLARITY</h4>
<p>It is of the utmost importance that what you want to show, is on the paper. Don&#8217;t leave anything essential to the interpretation of the reader, the actor, the director. If it has to be on the screen, even if you want it to be <em>felt</em> by the audience rather than <em>seen</em>, it still must be on the page and it must be undeniably clear in the mind of the reader.</p>
<p>If it is not going on the screen, it shouldn&#8217;t be in the script anyway.</p>
<p>Aesthetics are less important than clarity. If you can&#8217;t find an unobtrusive alternative to a long-winded description or dialogue phrase without causing confusion about the intention of the scene, leave it in.</p>
<h4>CONCISENESS</h4>
<p>An elegant screenplay moves fast. Clutter, both in action and dialogue slows down the reading experience and gives the impression of a slow moving film. Be brief, catchy, summarize as much as possible, but always without causing any confusion (see the first primary quality).</p>
<p>Using &#8216;lots of white&#8217; is a crucial style tip, but this is only possible if you are able to condense the meaning of your scenes in only a few well-written sentences.</p>
<h4>COLOR</h4>
<p>What Robert McKee calls &#8216;Vivid Action in the Now&#8217;, I believe is a successful combination of conciseness and color. It is concise enough to move fast, yet colorful so it speaks directly to our imagination.</p>
<p>Film is a visual medium and therefore you can argue that it doesn&#8217;t necessarily matter how you express something, as long as we can imagine what the scene looks like. Although this sounds right in theory, the reality is slightly different.</p>
<p>People making decisions on film funding read many, many screenplays. If you make the reading a burden by using a defective, unimaginative style, this will have a negative impact on the reading experience and potentially on the assessment of your script.</p>
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		<title>Inciting Incident: Event, not Action.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When talking about story structure, many people talk about where exactly in the story the structural element needs to happen. Often this is expressed in terms of a page number, or even a percentage of the film&#8217;s total duration. I would prefer to leave such quantification aside for a moment and rather look into what ... <a title="Inciting Incident: Event, not Action." class="read-more" href="https://www.thestorydepartment.com/inciting-incident-event-not-action/" aria-label="Read more about Inciting Incident: Event, not Action.">Read more</a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When talking about story structure, many people talk about where exactly in the story the structural element needs to happen. Often this is expressed in terms of a page number, or even a percentage of the film&#8217;s total duration.</p>
<p>I would prefer to leave such quantification aside for a moment and rather look into what these structural elements need to achieve.</p>
<p>For the inciting incident, here is my most important conclusion:</p>
<blockquote><p>The inciting incident is a major <em>event</em> happening <em>to</em> the protagonist, never an <em>action </em>or <em>decision by </em>the protagonist.</p></blockquote>
<p>When before I stated that the inciting incident must be a &#8216;deus ex machina&#8217;, I was wrong. Although it may seem so for our hero, it can but doesn&#8217;t need to be an act of God. But in any case it must be <em>beyond the control</em> of the protagonist.</p>
<p>To demonstrate that an action by the protagonist cannot work as an inciting incident, let&#8217;s look at two films that had a lot going for them but still failed to break out at the box office.</p>
<p>The following logline of <em>Somersault, </em>from a document published by the Australian Film Commission, claims to contain the film&#8217;s <em>starting event</em>. It says:</p>
<ul> <em><strong>A teenage girl runs away from home, hoping to find herself through love, but the people she meets are as lost as she is.</strong></em></ul>
<p>If the girl running away from home is <em>the starting event</em>, (i.e. the inciting incident), this is not a strong enough trigger for the story. But are we missing something? Why does she run from home? This is what we find on iMDB:</p>
<ul> <em><strong><br />
Heidi, 15, runs away from home after her mom sees her kissing mom&#8217;s boyfriend.</strong></em></ul>
<p>That, to me, reads like a pretty powerful inciting incident to <em>the mother&#8217;s character</em>. Not to the girl, because she started it in the first place.</p>
<p>McKee is absolutely right when he says the inciting incident should force the protagonist to act.</p>
<p>If the cause of the girl&#8217;s running away is not important enough to mention in the logline, it is probably not big enough to kick off the story. And the audience wouldn&#8217;t get the point that the story has effectively started. Such a &#8216;soft launch&#8217; of a film should be avoided at all cost.</p>
<p>Similarly, in what I believe to be the inciting incident of LUCKY YOU, Eric Bana&#8217;s character decides to bet all he has (i.e. the pawn ticket of his mother&#8217;s wedding ring) in a game of poker against his dad. When he loses, I feel it was his own mistake and he could have avoided it. It is not strong enough to start the movie.</p>
<p>Both films performed relatively poorly, given the exposure they had at the time of release. It certainly was not <em>just</em> because their weak inciting incidents, but I do believe it might have had something to do with that.</p>
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